June 17, 2026

UFO's and Disappearances in Washington

UFO's and Disappearances in Washington
UFO's and Disappearances in Washington
Mysterious Radio: Paranormal, UFO & Lore Interviews
UFO's and Disappearances in Washington
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Tonight, my special guest is a renowned investigator who has spent years documenting the unexplained through the lens of cutting-edge, high-powered technology. From mysterious crafts gliding silently across the night sky to astonishing anomalies that defy all known physics, Allen has captured what few have ever seen — clear evidence that challenges our understanding of reality itself.

Using advanced optics, night-vision, and infrared systems, he’s uncovered startling patterns of movement, structured craft, and phenomena that seem to respond intelligently to human presence. His decades-long pursuit to uncover the truth behind these encounters has drawn the attention of scientists, skeptics, and believers alike.

Is this proof of extraterrestrial technology, a classified military program, or something far more enigmatic?

Join us as we explore the footage, the data, and the mystery — and uncover why Allen believes humanity is only beginning to understand the hidden dimensions of our reality.

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[mysterious music] Get ready for a night filled with conspiracies, strange places, the paranormal, UFOs, legends, and myths from around the world. With your hosts, K-Town- K-Town...

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on Mysterious Radio. All right. Thank you for joining me tonight for another edition of Mysterious Radio. I'm your host, K-Town, and tonight I have a special guest.

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His name is Wilbur Allen, and he's here to tell us about the video he's been able to capture over Washington, DC.

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He's from that area, and, uh, he's got some clear, crystal clear video of some crazy anomalies that appear in the, the skies of Washington and also elsewhere in the country.

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We're gonna be talking about that in detail, and also Wilbur has, I actually heard him say this on another program, how, uh, in Washington there have been some strange disappearances when these, um, these UFOs show up.

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So people just disappearing. It's, it's crazy and it's wild, it's strange, and it's chilling. Wilbur's website is ufodc.com. Check that out. Al- also his Facebook account. [laughs] Look him up on Facebook.

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I gotta, I'm gonna go ahead and warn you that, um, he does say some things [laughs] th- that may offend some people.

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I mean, he's pretty outspoken, but if you don't like it, you know, don't be on his Facebook page is, is all I can say.

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But nevertheless, he's very real and, uh, his, his videos are just unlike anything that I've ever seen. So let's keep it moving, and here's my special guest, Wilbur Allen.

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[mysterious music] All right.

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My special guest tonight is UFO researcher and author Wilbur Allen, and he's here to discuss his incredible UFO sightings that he's been able to capture on video. It's really, it's, uh, amazing stuff really.

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Um, he's written three books about his experiences, and all of which are available on Amazon. Wilbur's website is ufodc.com. Wilbur, I wanna thank you very much for joining me tonight. Thank you for having me, K-Town.

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Well, I'm glad, I'm glad to have you. Now, I'll, I want to give you a little time first of all, Wilbur, to talk about your background. It's pretty interesting, and I want people to hear that.

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And then I want you to go into, uh, telling us how you, um, got started researching, um, UFO activity. UFOs. Well, that, that second question goes into the first question. But I was, um, a military brat.

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My, my parents were military intelligence, and we lived on SAC bases, which is Strategic Air Command, US Air Force, SAC bases throughout the planet Earth. You know, we have military bases everywhere.

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Well, at one base in the United Kingdom called Skullthorpe, RAF Skullthorpe, I woke up to

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five small, which looked like children in silver space suits, except they were extremely slender. They had heads almost that would be described as grays. They looked exactly like insects. But what was interesting is

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I could hear their thoughts, and it was interesting that they thought it was interesting that I wasn't, um, completely taken out. Like, what, what happens when extraterrestrials take people, they put a

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field, a dampening field at that person's brain which stops the flow of information from going to the rest of the body.

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So when I saw the aliens come into my room, I tried to scream, but my vocal cords didn't work anymore, and then I tried to run and I noticed my legs didn't work anymore.

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So in looking at myself screaming and not hearing nothing and wondering why I couldn't run, these extraterrestrials came up upon me.

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And it was, again, interesting that, and I have to emphasize I could hear their thoughts. They were not talking, but I could hear their thoughts. So they were primarily telepathic entities.

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But at that point, um, one of them inserted something into me,

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and from that point on for about seven years my body was trying to reject whatever it was they put into me, and the US military doctors could not find whatever it was that was inserted into me.

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But for seven years nightly, like clockwork, I would throw up. It was just every night, throw up. The military doctors tried to give me medications that would stop throwing up. It didn't do anything.

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I just threw up continually. When, when the vomiting stopped, however,

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it was when whatever that was inserted into me fused into my central nervous system, and at that point it became a transponder of sorts because objects started coming out of the sky and landing in front of me.

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And I say, when I say they land in front of me, I could-...

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technically touch them, but I would not touch them because some of the objects that landed in front of me had characteristics that I would assume to be extremely hot.

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But based on the area in which they landed in the trees, and if they were super hot, that area in the tree would've been damaged from the heat, and there was no damage at all to the leaves or the s- or anything that this thing touched as it came down out of the sky.

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But nevertheless, these objects started coming out of the sky and landing in front of me, forcing me to, uh, carry cameras with me to document these objects coming out of the sky. But to make a long story short,

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whatever they are and whatever they put into me is a functional transponder. Because I sent you a link to my website.

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My, my PhD, which I was working on my PhD at Howard University, is in advanced Hubble, and I created a machine. It's a miniature Hubble telescope. However, it is 10% the size of the original Hubble telescope.

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It has four million times more power than the Hubble telescope in space.

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So I'm able to generate motion picture nocturnally of objects which, um, according to NASA, um, enter into our airspace using spatial portals, which are associated to Earth's magnetic fields.

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But my data suggests that these objects are entering into our atmosphere not using Earth's magnetic fields.

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However, quantum teleportation or devices which allow them to pinpoint accurately the areas in which they want to infiltrate with their spacecraft, and they do that.

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And with the technology which I have created, which is an advanced version of Hubble, I photograph these objects which do not fly into my airspace.

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They enter my airspace, and you can see them incrementally manifest, which means they materialize in a, in a, in a manner in which you see there is an object or the shape of an object, and it is transparent.

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And as it manifests into our realm, it becomes more solid. It becomes a solid object. Then the videos show that these objects are, are manifesting into our airspace, and I document them nightly.

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What's interesting is this particular anomaly which I'm getting was initially documented by Grumman in 1960, 3/08/1960.

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It was following a NASA sat- satellite called Project Echo, and Project Echo was a military, um, intelligence satellite. It was designed specifically for the military intelligence network.

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But nevertheless, Grumman documented these two massive streaks of light, one of which they described as a red beam of light which spanned from one state to another.

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And I just happened to document that massive beam of light which spans from one state to another- Oh, wow... about a month ago. Mm-hmm. And they're here, without a doubt.

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So we, we have documentation of, of the objects which, which forensically speaking, when you talk about forensics, you have to have a form of comparative analysis.

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You have to have some documentation associated to an extraterrestrial spacecraft, and there is plenty of documentation associated to extraterrestrial spacecraft. You just have to look for it.

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And this one piece of evidence was Gr- Grumman's photographs, which they took using four-by-five film cameras, which was ground positioned in an array on, on Earth. They documented clearly these streaks of light.

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But based on their physical definitions and the report made by Grumman in 3/08/1960,

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I can take their report and match their report with actual definition or files associated to the definition of their report and show you without a doubt that the object that they documented in 1960 is still in our airspace.

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And my last documentation of that object was 15 minutes ago. Oh, wow. Okay, hold, hold, hold on right there.

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I need to go back, though, [laughs] because you said some, some really intriguing stuff about these beings that are, are visiting you, and then I'm gonna go back to, to the grooming, Grumman thing. Um- Okay. All right.

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Okay. So the beings that have, that visited you before when you were a child, are you still being visited by them? Yes. So is, is it the same beings or different ones or, or what?

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You know, I think, I think, I think whatever this transponder is that's in me... Let me tell you how this works. And I know specifically, you know, I'm, I'm a coherent person, and I'm telling you I have a PhD.

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I'll go to bed, and I know I go to bed in my room, and in the middle of the night I'll wake up, but I'm not at home anymore. I'm like someplace black.

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There is absolutely no light. However, I can see myself as if I'm being illuminated by some form of light. But I can't seem to locate that light source. There's like no light in this wherever the hell I am.

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Then I black out. Then I wake up again. This time I'm on a metal table of sorts,

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and I see above me what looks like a group of extraterrestrials looking down upon what seems to be a medical procedure that they're pro- that they're doing on me. Then I black out, and I wake up, and I'm back at home.

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But I know for a fact that when I wake up and I'm not home in this black room- Specifically because of the fact that the way my room was designed, there are windows and there's city lights, and the city lights shine in.

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And you l- and you know you're in the city because there's city lights shining in. When I'd wake up, there would be absolutely no light at all.

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That would be more intriguing to me than anything because the source of the light that's illuminating me would never be revealed. And it was always the same way. You know, I'd wake up

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as if I was transported to their craft, and then transported back after the procedure or whatever they have done to me was completed. So this happens to me periodically.

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And, and that brings up the other point on how I can document the same anomaly on a nightly basis, and I have the same anomaly 2,700 times on motion picture. And

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that documentation exceeds any space agency. NASA doesn't have anything like that. The European Space Agency has nothing like that. The Japanese Space Agency has nothing like that.

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The Chinese Space Agency has nothing like that. Nobody has anything like that. Yet consistently, on a nightly basis, I get the same objects in a fixed region of space.

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It seems to me like, a- and you just let me know if I'm wrong about this, you actually invented this method of catching, you know, these objects as clear as you do, correct? Yes. This is something you put together. Okay.

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It is, it is, it's constructed. It's, it's... I looked at what NASA is doing, and in fact, I looked at Hubble. And in, in looking at Hubble, which is this

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massive telescope the size of a bus in orbit, and it has, if you're, if you understand photography, NASA's Hubble is 1,600 ISO, which is like,

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you know, in old school photography, I don't know how, how old you are, but back in the day, people used to buy cameras, and the photography, the ISO of the cameras would be 400 ISO or 800 ISO- Right. Right... 1,600 ISO.

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It's old school technology. And it's near-infrared, 350 nanometers to normal, to normal visual range of a human being, while the device that I have is four million ISO,

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and it's not limited to 350 nanometers near-infrared. My device is actually infrared, ultraviolet, and X-ray. So it can see in all of those bands, and it does see in all of those bands.

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It allows me to photograph at 60 frames per second events in absolute darkness. And with that in mind, the objects that I get, that I document nightly, are consistently the same.

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So there's uniform consistency associated to all the objects that I'm documenting. With uniform consistency associated to all the objects that I'm documenting, I'm able to form a comparative forensic analysis.

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That comparative forensic analysis indicates that these objects are consistently the same. They're consistently the same with the objects that were documented by Gruman in 1960.

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It says to me that these objects are still in our airspace. You, now you said something that really captured my [laughs] attention here. You said that you can observe these things in these different bands of light.

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Now, when, when people look up, and I'm gonna speak for myself right now, when you look up, sometimes, uh, you will see something and, um, you know, you can clearly see it.

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But like, I actually obtained a, um, it's a, it's like a night vision type thing. I, you know, I was looking up in the same space where I thought nothing was, and I saw a light there. So it- Yes...

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which tells me that some of these objects are not gonna be visible in our normal light spectrum. You can't see them unless you're in, like, infrared or something else. Correct? Absolutely not. Absolutely not.

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In fact, right now I'm looking at a star, and if I go outside, and I get this star nightly, by the way, and I go outside and I look for this star, there's nothing there. Absolutely nothing. Right.

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My telescope has a secondary telescope associated to it. When I look into that secondary telescope, I see nothing. But on my monitor, here's a bright star that's bright as the sun. It's invisible.

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It must be in a band of light in which humans cannot see it. It's in a band of light that humans cannot see, and these objects are in a band of light that humans cannot see.

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So if they're in a band of light humans can't see, they're invisible to us. Okay. So we have to deal with that element. You know what? Okay, so let's, let's jump to portals, okay?

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Now, tell me, because you said, and I know that I heard this on one of your interviews, you said that there are portals opening up all the time over Washington, DC.

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Can you tell us more about what you've been able to observe there? In DC, I lived four blocks from the White House. I had a mansion on Logan Circle.

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And I would set my camera up on this mansion roof, which was unabated by city lights. I had a actually dark part where I could set a camera and not be polluted by people or lights or cars or anything like that.

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So on a nightly basis, I aligned my camera north, south, east, west with, with the city, which is northwest, northeast, southwest, south, southeast. It has four quadrants.

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So I aligned my camera in such a manner that north, south, east, and west are represented in the four corners of my frame.

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I line up my telescopes here exactly the same way in Virginia where I'm staying, which is 70 miles from Washington, DC. And in Washington, DC and in Virginia, along the same trajectory, I get the same objects.

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In DC especially, what was happening, what was more peculiar, and since the bulk majority of the population of Washington, DC is African American- On the nights that I was getting objects materialize into Washington, DC airspace,

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African Americans were mysteriously vanishing, including their cell phone signatures, all simultaneously at the same time. On 1/05/2017, I documented this tube-like anomaly.

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This tube anomaly was as large as an aircraft carrier when it materialized above DC, and I filmed it materialize, fly by. On the night that I documented that, 27 people disappeared in the direction this object was going.

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So it said to me, without a doubt, that what these things are doing, and there's a very strong possibility that we have to consider this, especially when, for example, people who eat food like poultry,

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what part of the chicken is the most tender? It's the dark meat. Well, but you hear what I'm saying. Or the turkey, it's the dark meat. The dark meat is generally the tender.

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I believe the African Americans are being consumed because they're tender. Really? Yes. Wow. Okay, wait a minute.

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So you're saying these people, when they're disappearing, they're, they're literally disappearing from where they're standing or laying or- If you're on your cell phone and you take your cell phone battery out, your cell phone still tells people where you are.

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You may think your phone is turned off. It is still sending a signal. Right. Now, these people who vanished all vanished mysteriously. And when I say mysteriously, even their cell phone pingers vanished. Wow.

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Everything- Wow... vanished. So that's something to think about. What would make your cell phone signature vanish? You would have to go inside something that's shielded, like a spacecraft. Exactly. You're right.

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That's unbelievable. So, you know, their, their mysterious disappearances, the police don't talk about this shit. Excuse my vocabulary. They don't talk about this stuff.

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[laughs] Because, you know, it's like, first of all, it's primarily African Americans, and, and in their light, we're disposable. Right. Right. So, you know, I, I have to be very blunt and blatant about it.

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You know, I'm a scientist and I'm looking at all this data. You know, at Howard University, my UFO footage spooked everybody. It spooked them. Oh, really? Yes. What did they do? Tell you to put it away or what?

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Or just not acknowledge it or what? Um, told me to s- in one instance, when I was lecturing to the classes, "Sit down and shut up." Like, sit down. Literally in those words, "Sit down and shut up."

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So, you know, it was interesting because the flow of information, especially when it's anomalous, you know, an unknown, the fear of the unknown is great among us. People fear the unknown. But then again, wait a minute.

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Why fear something that you don't know? Why not try to learn it or learn about it? Hmm. It enriches you even more. So here we have these anomalous events, which everyone is denying, that are transpiring.

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You know, and, and the fact that they transpire and the fact that people disappear at the same time that these things appear, no one seems to be able to add one and one and one and see that that equals three.

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Well, you know what? I've read headlines about the issue with, um, Black children disappearing in Washington, DC. Yeah. I actually read that. Yeah. Mysteriously. Right.

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Not just, not, now it's, now it's not just the children, it's people, period. People vanishing without a trace. Now, you know, it makes you think about, hmm, what would make a person vanish without a trace?

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How can you just disappear? Like, disappear. You're gone. Yeah. Nobody's seen you, nobody saw you, nothing. You're gone. It's unexplainable events like that can only be attributed to extraterrestrial abductions.

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I wanna talk about some of these portals that you've actually been able to film. Are they coming up- Yes... in different areas in, in Washington or in the same- They were... You know, it's weird. It's weird.

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You know, my, my research is based on a fixed pool of analysis, which means, and I mentioned earlier, I set my cameras up just like I do here in Virginia, exactly the same way every night.

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So that means every night, my screen sees the same region of space. Every night in the same region of space, I get the same events. Every night in the same region of space, I get objects materialize or dematerialize.

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If I take these files and I plot the ones that materialize and I plot the ones that dematerialize, I can give you the general location of the spatial portals in which they use to get here and the portals in which they use to leave here based on my data.

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Okay, so let's talk about this. You're, you're getting some crazy clear video of these objects. Has anyone validated your video as being, you know, some that have clearly show UFOs?

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I had a friend, and I know most people are familiar with this guy. His name was Dr. Edgar Mitchell. Dr. Edgar Mitchell was the lunar module pilot for Apollo 14. During Apollo 14, D- Dr.

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Mitchell did a lunar surface analysis of some rock samples.

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And in doing the lunar surface analysis of those rock samples, they set up a DAC camera, which is a 16 millimeter motion picture camera, to record the event as they, you know, documented their procedure in looking at these lunar surface rocks.

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In filming EVA1, on the lunar surface, Dr. Mitchell observed a streak of light materialize in front of him, and the object that he said materialized in front of him was perhaps two or three aircraft carriers in length.

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It was a massive anomaly. And that the EVA camera that recorded that event documented it clearly. So Dr. Mitchell, based on Apollo 14 EVA1, and Dr. Mitchell was my friend and associate, essentially-

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Based on his material, which he presented with me, showed, shared with me,

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acknowledged the fact that what I'm documenting here on Earth is exactly the same as the objects that he witnessed and filmed on the lunar surface during Apollo 14. Oh, wow. Okay.

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Now, um, Wilbur, do you think these objects are materializing from another dimension? They're using quantum teleportation.

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You know, what's interesting is in 1990, before Mir crashed into the atmosphere because of the fact that it didn't have propellant fuel to keep it in orbit,

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they documented spatial portals at both the North and South Poles.

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Now, it made me think about this for a minute, because anyone that understands magnetism and how a generator works will understand this unique event that transpires at our North and South Pole at any given point in time.

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Earth is a ball with spinning magnets at the top and spinning magnets at the bottom. And those spinning magnets are generating a spinning magnetic field, the same spinning magnetic field generated inside a generator.

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And those who know anything about how generators work, we have coils spinning around a magnet, and the magnetic magnet is causing the ions in the coil to generate electricity.

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But in this case, the spinning magnetic fields of Earth are generating spatial portals, wormholes, in which these extraterrestrials are using to enter into our airspace and exit out of our airspace.

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One of those events was documented in 1947 during Project Highjump, when Admiral Richard E. Byrd and the US Navy got their asses kicked in Antarctica by anomalous object, which destroyed 60% of the fleet.

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60% of the fleet. Destroyed them. They said those objects came out of the water. They flew by them so fast, they didn't even have time to lock their weapons on them.

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They were completely obliterated by extraterrestrial technology, which is based in Antarctica.

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It is also accessed by the Nazis, which made an alliance with these aliens prior to the Americans showing up with their naval fleet.

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So it's really interesting that everything that we look at and all the things that happened in history are s- are starting to repeat. Those objects that kicked the Navy's asses, they're still here.

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The same objects that I'm documenting on a nightly, on a nightly basis are the very same objects that are described in Richard E. Byrd's logs of the objects that essentially destroyed their fleet. Yeah. Yeah. Um,

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I wanna go back to something you said. Now, uh, before I forget this [laughs], you talk about the, the transponder that's inside you. First of all, where, where is it, and how did you know you actually had one?

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It's in my head. When I was a kid, they found it in an X-ray. When they tried to remove it, it retreated itself. It went in deeper, and it generated enough pain that I had to have them stop. I was screaming unmercifully.

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It was absolutely painful. And then Dr. Lear, Dr. Roger Lear, tried to do, do an analysis on it, and he wanted to remove it. But I insisted that he not, because I actually enjoy the things that I experience.

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Okay, so you believe that they put it there so that they can, or you have some type of unknown way of contacting them, and they can show you their craft? Yes. Yes. Okay. All right.

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You know, everything happens, everything happens telepathically. That's something to think about, you know.

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Like last night, last night when I was filming, 'cause I had, like, maybe 10 minutes, and I said, "Okay, look, I gotta take the camera down. You gotta either show up now or, you know, that's it," or, or whatever.

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The minute I said that, the object flew by. It happens every time. So it's like a connection between me and this anomalous object that, you know, on a nightly basis, it wants me to film it, and I do. Wow.

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All right, now, um, let's go on to something else, because you sent me a link about, um, an object that you were able to capture that is really identical to the Tic Tac UFO that was re- released in the Department of Defense video.

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So I wanna, first of all, I want you to tell people about that Department of Defense video, and then I want you to tell us how you started capturing the one, 'cause yours is crystal clear, and it's just un- incredible, actually.

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Well, they're, the n- the Navy, the Navy technology, and I give my hats off to the Navy for having the balls to come out and talk about these objects.

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Because, you know, for many years, even though the Air Force did document those same things in the 1960s, by the way, but their, for some reason, that flow of information just happened to stop, because most of the chain of command in the Air Force

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are old guys with their heads locked up their asses. So you have to consider that. They're like old school guys. But the objects that the Navy documented using, um, four ADP FLIR technology, which is monochromatic,

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showed these tubular shaped objects which look like Tic Tacs, the candy you buy at any of the grocery stores or the gr- or the, um, CVS or wherever you go to buy your candies. They looked exactly like Tic Tacs. And

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what's interesting is that I believe that those Tic Tacs have infiltrated our airspace, and they're everywhere now. And in

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most of the research that I looked at from what I was doing in Washington, DC, the Tic Tacs are in Washington DC also.

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But it wasn't until I started working with this hyper Hubble telescope that I have that I started documenting these objects.

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And in documenting these objects in full spectrum infrared- I see that their energy, unlike the Navy's material, which is monochromatic, I see the energy coming off these objects in full spectrum color.

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And it shows without a doubt that there is an energy field that's emitted from within this object or these objects, and that it's, it's like, and they were talking about, um,

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pilots are talking about, uh, these, these vehicles that are in the air and they, they have no apparent means of propulsion. You know, there's no wings, there's no engines, there's no nothing.

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But yet, this little white tube-like object can go up against an F-18 or F-16 fighter and leave it standing in the dust like it had, like it was nothing.

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So that advanced technology that we think that we have, and the samples that they were able to film in 480p FLIR justify the data that I'm generating with the Hyper Hubble camera that I'm utilizing to, to show that whatever these objects are, clearly that they're still in our airspace, and that the Navy just shed light on the fact that these alien objects are here.

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Yeah. Now, do you d- or have you heard, let me say that, have you heard about anybody saying that they think that there are actual beings on the inside or are these remote operated vehicles?

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You know, you know, from, from what I've seen that landed in front of me, especially the orange sphere, which is interesting, I should mention this, because on August the 3rd in 2008, I was working on a music video and I had people around me, artists, like 18, 19 people around me when these orange spheres came out of the sky and landed.

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And I took pictures, and all the 18 people around me were like looking and ooh-ing and aah-ing. Do you know, if I call any of those 18 people today and ask them what they saw, they won't remember any of it? Wow.

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Why, why is that? That's totally bizarre. Do you think their memory was erased or, or what?

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I think, I think, I think, I think whatever happens that, you know, like in the movie, the MIBs, and they shine that flashlight in your face and you forget everything, I think these objects do do that because they had to get that concept from somewhere.

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And here I'm clearly telling you that an orange sphere that I photographed, which was within arm's reach, landed in front of me and 18 other people, and not one of them chumps even remembers. And it wasn't the weed.

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It was not the weed. I remember. I was smoking the weed with them. I still remember it. It was not that. They're completely oblivious of the fact that this object landed in front of them. They don't remember. Wow.

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That, that's crazy. That's wild. That's wild. Um, I want to, uh, there's so many places I wanna take you.

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I wanna go back to Washington again because didn't you say you captured something that was entering in and out of the r- reflection pool? I got...

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What, what was really weird is the objects that landed at the US Capitol Building were the same objects that were documented by Apollo 11 on the excursion to the moon.

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And Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong and Commander Collins documented this, these green spheres that had fluidic properties associated to them. They were not fluidic.

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I would say more plasma, like a plasma, a ball of plasma. And that what I encountered July 16th, 2002, at the US Capitol Building were these four plasma balls.

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Well, actually eight plasma balls based on the samples when I looked at it closely. Whatever it was, there was another set of objects with it, but they were cloaked, but the camera could still see them.

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But the plasma associated to the green objects that were documented by the crew of Apollo 11

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and the camera that I documented at the US Capitol Building, 2002, but there was another source from a person, her name was Betty Hill. Betty and Barney Hill.

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Betty Hill started taking pictures of objects that were landing in front of her and Barney, and that these objects that Betty photographed were 100% consistent with the objects that I documented at the US Capitol Building.

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Where can we see that? I mean, are those pictures online somewhere, Wilbur, where we can see them? Oh, you can, you can, you can go and see them. You can either Google, um, Washington DC, uh, July, uh, 16th, 2002.

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It's on my website. Um, you know, just Google Wilbur Allen UFOs at the US Capitol Building. All those samples come up. They're even on my National Geographic page.

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But the samples clearly showed without a doubt in high definition the same objects that were documented by the crew of Apollo, uh, 11 and the crew of Apollo 17 on the lunar surface. All right. Right.

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Now, um, with all the UFO activity that's apparently going on there in Washington, DC, and you been able to, to, to capture your incredible videos and, and pictures and whatnot, it would definitely seem that something's going on there and, um, do you think there's some type of alien base present there somewhere?

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Yes, I believe they've infiltrated, without a doubt. Okay. You know, one of the things that, that I had never talked about to a lot of my friends was on one of the occasions, in DC is the Potomac River,

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and on December, it was cold as hell, and I stepped outside to, you know, take a break.

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And I looked in the water and I saw, and boats were going left and right from the tidal forces, but there was this stationary blue, red, white, and blue light modulating underwater.

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And I couldn't figure it out, so I took a series of pictures. And as the boats were swaying and, you know, the tidal forces, whatever it was that was underwater was completely unaffected by tidal forces.

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There is no technology that I know of- That would be stationary in, in, in like a wake or, you know, a wave or anything like that. This thing stayed 100% stationary.

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20 minutes after I took the series of photographs that I took, a lady 10 miles upriver said that she saw a star-like anomaly come out of the water and go into orbit. So it's interesting that they're using the waterways.

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From my research from Missing in Alaska, which is a show I did for the History Channel, we went to Mount Hayes, Alaska, and I documented this object over Mount Hayes, Alaska materialize and then dematerialize.

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It was a massive sphere. It was perhaps the size of like a small Super Bowl. It was a s- sphere. It just materialized.

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And it indicated without a doubt that, you know, in the Arctic Circle especially, that the extraterrestrials are using bases inside the glaciers. Right. Like they are during, uh, like they are in Antarctica. Wow.

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Now, um, I wanna tell you this.

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I did hear an interview with Linda Moulton Howe, and she mentioned a whis- whistleblower that came to her, and he said something about the government knew of nine places on the planet where the Earth's magnetic field actually collapses.

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And he was tasked to build some type of brick building with no windows, and it had some type of machinery on the inside.

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It was way out in the middle of nowhere, um, in this area where th- where this occurs, and Arizona is one of 'em.

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And, uh, they put it there because when, wh- if, if they didn't do that, there would definitely be things that would come in and out of the portal, the natural portal that is created when these, um, when the magnetic field collapses.

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So, um, do you know if DC is one of those places, or have you heard about that? Well, DC, like I was mentioning, you know, the basis of my research is a fixed pool of analysis. And every night,

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starting from 2012 after I left Area 51, I was crew, uh, to a show called My Big Redneck Vacation, which was country music television, and they sent me to Area 51 to document UFOs, by the way.

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That whatever these objects are, it's like I've got them in Area 51. I've got them in Sedona.

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In Sedona, what was interesting was the spatial portal was directly over the hotel that I was staying at, and that whatever this object was that communicated with me in Area 51, it followed me to Sedona two weeks later.

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And in Sedona, it instructed me to set up my camera, and it sh- instructed me where to focus my camera. And I did everything that it instructed me to do. And then within two minutes of hitting start, it appeared.

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And then 30 minutes later in the same region where I hit start, this object came back and disappeared in the same area that it appeared into, indicating to me that the portal in which it entered and the portal in which it exited are in the same place.

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And I have that on film. Hmm. It's exactly the same object that I'm getting nightly now. Now, when you say instructed, were you... Are, are they communicating with you telepathically?

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I mean, how are they instructing you? It's telep- it's telepathic. I had, for Uncovering Aliens, they made me climb a mountain with 70 pounds worth of gear. So I did that, but, you know, I don't do that often.

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So when I got to the top of that mountain, my body was completely destroyed. Like, I had to have my assistant help me carry my gear down because I didn't have the energy to, to carry my gear bag anymore.

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My body was destroyed. So they took me back to my hotel so I, so I could, you know, try to regain my strength from being overwhelmed from climbing the side of this mountain. And I went to bed

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in pain, and something in the middle of the night woke me up. I was no longer in pain. It told me to set up my camera, and I did, and then it materialized. Um, okay.

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So let's, l- let me, um... Okay, I have to mention the program before [laughs] I forget this. Now- [laughs]... I watched you on a program. You're on a lot of programs.

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By the way, I love the one that's on w- The Weather Channel. So- Um- I know you had something on the, on The Weather Channel there... Twist of Deliver: Tornado Alley. Right. Yes, yes, yes.

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That's it, that's it, that's it. Um, now you were on another program with these other two guys, and you were in Alaska. I don't know the name of that one. Mis- Missing in Alaska: True Guys. There you go. Right. Yes.

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Okay. Now, the, [laughs] the object that you captured there that was on the mountain that went down behind the mountain so fa- It was just...

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I mean, [laughs] I could, I just could not believe that you captured that, but that was unreal. The same objects I'm getting now. It's... See, that's what makes this all unique.

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What I got in Alaska, what I got in Area 51, what I got in Sedona, what I'm getting here in Virginia, what I'm getting in Washington, DC, it's all the same, all of it. Hmm.

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So I got a plethora of data which, you know, if you... Again, I keep bringing up a comparative analysis. I can show you 1,700 files of an object. How is that possible? I don't know, man. I'm serious.

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[laughs] I'm serious. You- Think about that. I mean, really. You know, all these people talking they, they've made contact with aliens. Yeah. And here I'm telling you I made contact with aliens as a child.

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Look at my work. Yeah. Well, it definitely speaks for itself 'cause it is unreal. I mean, really. Um, okay, so I want you to oblige us a little bit because you mentioned Area 51.

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I've never actually been there, so can you, can you take us through, like, what you see when you get there and where you were actually setting up your camera?

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And what you saw that night or on one of the nights that you were watching out there It, it was one of, it was one of the creepiest nights I've ever experienced.

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First of all, the entire evening in the desert, it was me and a BBC crew, along with the cr- cast of My Big Redneck Vacation. I decided to go by myself into the desert at night.

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And immediately, I set up my tripod and I started shooting up into the sky, and my camera documented these two, what looked like sperm cells slithering in space, which materialized. They didn't like...

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They weren't there. When I looked at the photographs, there's nothing there in the beginning, and then you see this sperm cell appear, and it's slithering like a snake.

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And then in the fifth shot where I have this object slither, and I just got an object just warp by in my cameras just now. In the fifth shot,

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and I gotta tell you this in the words that this thing sent to me telepathically, and I've said this and it's posted on my website. This thing told me to pack my shit and leave immediately. Do you know what?

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When I heard that telepathic message, do you know what I did? I packed my shit and I left immediately. [laughs] Within one minute, within one minute,

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a Jeep with a security guards, two security guys with a machine gun on top just happened to go to the spot where I was with my camera.

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Because there's a sign that specifically says, "No photography in Area 51," and they wanted my camera. Okay. And guess what? How far away were you at the time? The aliens told me to get my shit out of there.

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[laughs] I was, I was not even, I wasn't even n- I was at, I would say, maybe 50 feet from the perimeter of Area 51. 50 feet meaning, you know what? I wasn't, I wasn't even interested in looking at the base.

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I was more interested in looking at the stars above it, and guess what I got above it?

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Spacecraft, and the same spacecraft, the one object that slithers like a snake, which just happened to look like a Tic Tac or a series of Tic Tacs. And then this other object, which was a long beam of light,

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and it materialized, flew by, and dematerialized just long enough for me to see it.

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It just happens to be the same object that I get on a nightly basis, and it just happens to be the object that told me to pack my shit and leave. They're now my glue buddies. Wow. You know what?

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I saw that video on your YouTube channel actually. Yeah. Uh, that's amazing. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Um, now do you still go out to, to Area 51 and film, or has that been your last time? I, I, I, um...

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You know, it's weird that, and I'm telling you, every place I go, I, I get the same objects. So I know if I go back to Area 51, I'll just get the same objects. It's not like I'm gonna miss anything.

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But it, I don't have to go to those places anymore because these objects come to me, and I get them nightly every night. So I have to ask you- 365 days a week. Right. Right.

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So I have to ask you, um, Wilbur, do you think that, you know, have you ever gotten, or do you think you've ever gotten anything that's made by, you know, us, or has it always been extraterrestrial to you? No.

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Impossible. Anything that we would make would not have the definitions associated to what I'm, what I'm documenting. You know, first of all, we don't have anything that would give us the ability to

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teleport or like, like on 105/2017 in Washington, DC, when I took a picture of this aircraft si- aircraft carrier sized Tic Tac object, this tube that was taking African Americans. You know, it was like

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completely silent. But what's interesting is I got three different files of the same object materializing in the same airspace on three different occasions.

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So consistently showing the same object three different times in three different periods of, of time

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indicated to me that whatever that I was document, whatever I was documenting, was entering into that airspace through a pathway, and which was obviously designated.

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Because here I'm telling you, I can show you that tubular spacecraft that's the size of a aircraft carrier on three different videos in three different periods of time.

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What's interesting, on, on 105/2017 and 106/2016, the object appeared. It was 365 days apart. In DC, that was even weirder. On 3-0...

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On 8/13/2013, 8/13/2014, 8/13/2015, 8/13/2016, 8/13/2017, each video that night is exactly the same. Try and exercise. Yeah. Yeah. Wow.

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That's crazy. [laughs] Now I have to ask- Totally crazy. Yeah. [laughs] Um, Wilbur, do you think these are beings from our reality somewhere in another galaxy, or are these beings from another dimension or what?

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The, what, what, what I saw, you know, when I saw that massive aircraft carrier Tic Tac tube object at Whole Foods, and I'm a guy.

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And, and I saw at a table 17 to 18 blonde supermodels. I call them supermodels. They were all absolutely stunning. Like, God, they were gorgeous. But for some reason, fear came upon me

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and I could not speak. Something said to me that these particular individuals were not human.

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I got a piece of information that was sent to me from Germany showing what, whoever these Aryan people are that the Germans have been worshiping for all of these years, these extraterrestrials.

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And they just happened to be blonde and blue eyes, just like every one of the chicks that were sitting at the table at Whole Foods. It was unreal to see, like, a whole table full of Victoria's Secret models.

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That's like, that's totally unreal. And

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it was spooky because that was the night that I photographed that huge tubular object, which based on the information sent to me from Germany, that those could have possibly been the occupants of that spacecraft sitting at a table at Whole Foods.

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Now, is this the only time you've ever come in contact with humans that you thought were not actually human? I had, I had another experience like that in New York City, where I saw

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a group of individuals that definitely were not human, but they were humanoid, but they were not human, and they could sense me. Okay. Go ahead. I'm just letting you [laughs] go on. I hate to interrupt you.

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You know, you know, it's, it's bizarre. You know, I mean, it's like, you know, a lot... We- we're talking stuff a lot of people would not believe.

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And if anybody else would say something like this, perhaps they would have that person subjugated to an institution for the possibility of psychol- psychological instabilities. Yeah. Yeah.

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But here I'm telling you these are realities, like things that you would not imagine, you know?

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And, and the fact that I documented this object, the fact that I see these blondes and blue eyes, and the fact that the African Americans were disappearing at the same time,

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and the, the fear that came upon me when I saw these people, you know. Um, there was just too many factors associated s- that would indicate clearly without a doubt that what I was looking at was a table full of aliens.

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Now, these disappearances are- And they scared the shit out of me. Right. [laughs] Well, it would anybody, you know? I mean, I really would. Yeah. Um- Oh, shit. Like, ooh...

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Wilbur, are the disappearances still happening out there, or that you know of? Yes. Okay. Yes. It's, uh, it's, it's, it's happening everywhere, by the way. Look up, look up mysterious vanishings of people.

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You know, when you find people that mysteriously disappear without a trace, and their cell phones are gone, and the- there, there's no... You know, there's a paper trail. Like if, if you, if, if you were...

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Something would happen to you and somebody would use your credit card, there's a paper trail associated to that. You know, it leaves a signature. Everywhere you go, there would be a paper trail.

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But what's interesting is these people, there's nothing. Like, poof, they're gone. One minute they're standing there, the next minute they said there was nobody there. That's, that's crazy. That is just really crazy.

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That's chilling as hell. Let me, let me t- Oh, it's spooky... let me say something here real quick about, uh, disappearances. I did see something online.

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I didn't look in it, you know, look into it too much, but it was talking about Michigan. There was a lot of people disappearing, uh, in- That's true. Yeah... the state of Michigan. Yeah. Hmm.

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And it just happens to be, um, a high percentage of African Americans. Hmm. Very interesting. Um- Really interesting. Now, okay, so I have to talk about this.

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Um, and I wanna spend the, the rest of the time, um, focusing on your research, um, that you do in conjunction with The Weather Channel.

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You talk about UFOs that are actually, you know, you know, showing up during storms and tornadoes- Yeah... and such. Can you tell us a little bit about that?

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We think what they're doing is they're harnessing the energy from these storms. Like, you know how they have these things, you can set your cell phone down, it'll charge your cell phone, you just set it on top of it.

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It's called induction, an induction charger. Right. Uh-huh. I believe

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that these objects use natural energy, and that through induction they charge that energy into their spacecraft and use it, like charging their batteries.

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That's what they're doing in the storms, they're charging their batteries. Now, have you captured anything like that? I mean, are you focusing on storms yourself or... 'Cause every video that I see- Um, I, I-...

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it's always a clear night or something...

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I try not to, but I documented something in DC during an electrical storm and, and I set my camera up and I was shooting picture after picture after picture of this cloud that was generating these massive flashes of light, which clearly were photographed.

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But in the middle of taking these pictures, this ball appears, and then it slowly flies out and it mas- lights are flashing all around it. You could see that it is a ball flying out.

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So they call it ball lightning, but ball lightning wouldn't have control, like a controlled flight path associated to it. Ball lightning would be like, like random.

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You know how things are random, like lightning bolts are random. It doesn't shoot in a straight line. It shoots awkwardly, archaically, in multiple directions.

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This thing was flying with an intelligent pattern associated to it, and it just so happened to manifest out of that, out of that electrical cloud, and it was brighter than the electrical cloud. And I documented it.

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I have the documents associated to that. Wilber, let me ask you something about this anomaly that was captured, uh, with the sun. I know you've heard about it. Yeah.

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It was some kind of big disc or ball or something that, you know, detached itself. I mean, it was there for a long time, but it, it eventually- Yeah... detached itself in 2012, and

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people think it was actually getting, you know, energy from the sun or whatnot. Have you looked at that at all? You know, I, I... It's funny you mention that.

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I have recently, uh, invested in a lens specifically designed to observe solar observations, and I started using the lens yesterday and today. And in my shots, I took a series of shots-

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I see clusters of objects around the sun, some of which are stationary. Now, that's what's interesting, 'cause I s- in the series of shots that I took, these,

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w- what was even more interesting, and I'm taking pictures of the sun with a solar lens, I'm seeing stars, and I'm not sure why I'm seeing stars, or at least if these are stars that I'm seeing.

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Because when you start taking pictures of the sun, and you know the sun is a massive ball of light, and you see smaller balls of light that just so happen to be brighter than the sun, then it makes you start to wonder what exactly would have more energy than our sun and s- and can be smaller than the sun.

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So what I'm photographing are these, I don't know what they are, I would say objects, I'll just leave that as a, as an ambiguous term, objects around the sun that are stationary, that are brighter.

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And on some of the samples I have, there are some brighter spots on the lunar s- on the, on the surface of the sun itself, which are consistent with the objects that I'm photographing around it.

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So there's something parked around the sun right now. Right. Right. Well, that's the reason why I ask, because they, they also believe, or this professor believed, that it could be some type of portal or something.

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The sun could literally- Well, all-... be a portal...

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all the samples that, that, that people have been getting, especially the US Navy, the US Navy Solar Observatory is getting the same streaks of light that I get here, uh, around the sun.

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And in fact, what's interesting is the Navy sample, I have a sample taken in Washington, DC that looks exactly 100% like the object that the Navy photographed around the sun. It's exactly the same object.

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So we have that, the forensics associated. That's why I was mentioning if we look for the data, we can find it. So we have data associated to this particular anomaly, which I'm saying the streak of light.

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That streak of light is the same streak in th- that was documented by Groom in 308/1960. I keep going back to that file. It's the same streak of light that was documented by Dr. Edgar Mitchell during Apollo 14 EVA1.

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It is the same streak of light that was documented by Phobos 2 prior to its destruction. Oh, okay. So see, we have now, we look at e- all the data, and look at the Russian Phobos data.

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Russian Phobos data, that shit looks exactly like what I got right here.

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It's exactly the same, except the Phobos data indicated that whatever the object was, it destroyed that satellite, because that was the last photographic to it. Right. Right. Have you, um, do you look at the moon?

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I mean, have you did some extensive, um, observations on the moon?

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I, I have some lunar, lunar surface scans of the moon in infrared, and I documented light sources on the surface of the moon, um, in infrared, mind you, that if you take your, if you looked at the moon right now, you would not see it at all.

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But there are light sources on the moon, without a doubt, and they're in a, in a band of light that's not visible to humans. Okay, so you have to see in the infrared. Is that how people can see that?

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Primarily infrared, yes. Okay. Okay. I'll have to look at that. Is, is that on your YouTube channel? That, those, those samples are on my, um, UFO DC Virginia chapter.

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And those, if you go to my chapter on my website, all the pictures are videos. So you just click on it, and it takes you directly to the video on YouTube.

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You, you'll have to subscribe to see all of the stuff because, you know, it's interesting, I've got people who are unsubscribing from my YouTube channel because they think I'm uploading the same file over and over again.

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But they don't think about the fact, hey, look, the stars are different. It may look like the same file, but it's different, but it's the same object every night. Yeah. Yeah.

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I wanna know, um, have you captured any craft coming off the moon? I mean, have you done anything, got anything like that? My, my, my, my, my, my technology, the Hubble technology, it's, it's called the Hyperstar lens.

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And the Hyperstar lens is, it's a 900 millimeter lens at f/2.0. If you know anything about photography, an f/2.0 lens like that is like a massive eye in the sky, technically. It would be a, it's a $60,000 lens. And

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with a f/2 lens, and the s- and the moon is essentially a ball which is reflecting sunlight, and that basically, if you know anything about photographing the sun, you need a lens that would be somewhat closed down, and that with the Hyperstar technology, since it's specifically designed for extreme nocturnal conditions, meaning blackness, aiming it towards the moon would be

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counterproductive because it would be overlit, too bright for me to see things. It's just too bright for that application.

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But if I revert the lens to its original configuration, which is non-Hubble, then, and I, which meaning with this lens that I'm using, it is not, if you, if you know how the Hubble telescope is designed, it's not like a telescope you look from behind.

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Hubble telescope is a telescope that's looking into the tube itself, and then from looking into the tube, it gets, gathers its data of space, because looking into the tube gathers more light.

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It has a larger reflector to gather light based on the lens design of the Hubble telescope.

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So with a lens that is able to gather light, and with a device which has the capability of recording ultraviolet, infrared, and X-ray,

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this lens is documenting these objects, which, with the fact that the camera's infrared, and I'm using, uh, 470 nanometers, which is hyper color, which gives me the ability to see if there are any other energy colors associated to these objects in high definition, it allows me to see the energy coming off these objects.

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And, and what's interesting is that when they fly by, it is an object that has no means of propulsion. It's just- It's going by on its own accord without any engines or whatever.

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You know, it's just, it warps by at speeds that are just enormous. In fact, that in,

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the fact that this camera's able to document them, um, says to me that if a human was outside and looking at it, they would not see, see any of it because it's in a band of light that's invisible to humans.

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These things are coming into our airspace. They might be in front of you right now, and you would not see it at all. Incredible. Um, I'm serious. Um,

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now Wilbur, um, before we go, I want you to please tell my listeners where they can find more information about you and anything else you're working on.

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You can, you can Google, um, Wilbur Allen National Geographic or Wilbur Allen ufodc.com.

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Um, Wilb- Wilbur Allen YouTube, um, Wilbur Allen Weather Channel, Wilbur Allen Science Channel, Wilbur Allen Discovery, Wilbur Allen History Channel. I mean, all the networks still takes you directly to my work.

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But my primary source of information is my website, which is ufodc.com, and my YouTube channel, Wilbur Allen YouTube channel. All right. Thank you very much, Wilbur.

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Many blessings to you, and I really appreciate your time. K. Town, thank you for having me. All right. That is the end of this one, and I wanna thank my special guest, Wilbur Allen, for joining me.

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Please make sure you check out his website. It is ufodc.com. And also follow him or friend him on Facebook. He, he's always posting some great video, and I think that you will really enjoy it.

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He's always willing to answer any questions that you may have about that. So again, his website is ufodc.com. And I wanna thank you for your continued loyalty and support of me and, uh, and my team.

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We do, uh, thank you really from the bottom of our hearts. So I wanna thank my producer tonight, Kim, and the Mysterious Radio team. I am your host K. Town.

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