Inside The World of Corporate Spies
My special guest tonight is Robert Kerbeck who's here to discuss his book that details how he started down the path of becoming a wealthy corporate spy. Get his book Ruse: Lying the American Dream from Hollywood to Wall Street on Amazon.
“Kerbeck’s juicy memoir tells riveting tales [with] the thrill of a spy novel. . . Kerbeck bares all of his wild business secrets within the world of corporate espionage” —Foreword Reviews
"Robert Kerbeck has mastered the art of social engineering, or what he calls 'rusing', and taken it to a whole new level." —Frank Abagnale, author of Catch Me If You Can
B-list actor, A-list corporate spy
In the world of high finance, multibillion-dollar Wall Street banks greedily guard their secrets. Enter Robert Kerbeck, a working actor who made his real money lying on the phone, charming people into revealing their employers’ most valuable information. In this exhilarating memoir that will appeal to fans of The Wolf of Wall Street and Catch Me If You Can, unsuspecting receptionists, assistants, and bigshot executives all fall victim to “the Ruse.”
After college, Kerbeck rushed to New York to try to make it as an actor. But to support himself, he’d need a survival job, and before he knew it, while his pals were waiting tables, he began his apprenticeship as a corporate spy.
As his acting career started to take off, he found himself hobnobbing with Hollywood luminaries: drinking with Paul Newman, taking J.Lo to a Dodgers game, touring E.R. sets with George Clooney. He even worked with O.J. Simpson the week before he became America’s most notorious double murderer.
Before long, however, his once promising acting career slowed while the corporate espionage business took off. The ruse job was supposed to have been temporary, but Kerbeck became one of the world’s best practitioners of this deceptive—and illegal—trade. His income jumped from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars a year.
Until the inevitable crash….
Kerbeck shares the lies he told, the celebrities he screwed (and those who screwed him), the cons he ran, and the money he made—and lost—along the way.
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I mean, would she pay you based on that information or maybe if those companies were able to actually poach those employees, would you get a bonus or how was that done? Absolutely not. [laughs] [laughs] Okay.
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We were, we were paid $8 an hour, which, you know, uh, today I laugh at.
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I, I just can't believe we were doing this, you know, this spying and, and, and putting our, you know, putting ourselves at risk, at jeopardy for $8 an hour.
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But this is the funny thing about Ruse, the book, is that remember, I just wanted to be an actor. So this was just the survival job. I never, I never really took it seriously.
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I, I didn't think too much about it in terms of legality because, you know, I wasn't stealing, uh, individuals' credit card numbers. I wasn't, you know, siphoning money off an elderly person's bank account.
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