Travis Scott Astroworld Deaths and The Epstein Trial

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[ominous music] Hi there. Thank you for allowing me to be a part of your journey today. I am your host K-Town, and you're listening to Mysterious Radio.

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Almost two months ago, Travis Scott held a concert at Astroworld where 10 people lost their lives in a massive and terrifying crowd surge that injured at least 100 more.

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The cause of death for all 10 was compressed asphyxia, but many have come out to say that these deaths had a dark and sinister undertone.

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And here to discuss the details of the concert at Astroworld is my special guest returning to the show, William Ramsey.

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[suspenseful music] I've kind of been around for a while.

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I've seen a lot of people making mountains out of molehills. So when I first heard of this, I was like, "Meh, I'll check it out."

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And then I really started to check out, so I was astonished at how much occult symbolism was involved.

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And the first thing that came to my, uh, mind was that at either one of these Astroworlds, there were three of them, so the most recent death that happened in November in Houston was the third.

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That took place at, what is it, the Six Flags, former Six Flags, uh, area or landscape.

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Anyway, so one of them had the smiley face over the earth, and so for me, that was astonishing because I used that same kind of symbolism for my s- Second Smiley Face Killers documentary.

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So I immediately recognized that. And in th- in that symbolism, there's like a screw through the head of the smiley face, which is pretty intense, like, uh, symbolizing like you're screwed.

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So it's a very kind of ominous, uh, malevolent looking symbol. So that's one thing. Um, the other thing is that one of the things that I was surprised about is that

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the stage coming out of this circle, very potent symbolism of kind of like the phal- like the lingam and yoni, is that it's an upside down cross.

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And there's a lot of sym- symbolism in the occult that comes from Eastern ideas of the ideas of penis and vagina. So it's very intense symbol of sexual magical symbolism there. And you'll see that through Crowley.

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I'm very familiar with Crowley. But it comes really from ancient pagan societies to the present up through the occult. So that was incredible too, so that really kind of piqued my interest.

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The whole stage is kind of like a holy mountain, like a, a possessed mountains motif, which also kind of ties into Jodorowsky and some of these other people.

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Like I know Kanye West has been influenced by Jodorowsky, and that's what I was thinking about when I saw that. And Jodorowsky's a big fan of Crowley and a cultist. So it seemed very potent.

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And then- Yeah, let me see, let me jump in real quick- Yeah, sure... because you couldn't tell the stage was an upside down cross.

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I couldn't tell until someone got an aerial view, uh, aerial view of it, then you could definitely tell. Yeah. You know, it's an upside down cross. Also, you, you mentioned, um, that it was like coming out of his mouth.

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Now, someone saw that and said it was this, this image of... It's supposed to be like the gates of hell, I guess. And it's, it's like an old, old type thing.

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Something that has to do with the devil welcome to gates of hell or something like that. Did you see that? I did.

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I saw something that looked like the, the mouth of him, that there's a kind of a circular mouth of his distinctive kind of hairstyle, and a mouth of going through him that references Hieronymus Bosch, which he used to write all these things about different levels of hell, or paint them actually.

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So there's that play, but the specifics of the crucifix going into the circle, which is kind of the head of the stage, is the kind of sexual magic lingam and yoni penis and vagina thing.

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That's coming out of the mouth, but then that mouth is also like the gates of hell, and it's also has like a hypnotic element to it, which is a lot of, in his symbolism, is this kind of deliberate symbolism of hypnotism, which is that kind of interlocking circle, so.

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Oh, that's, that's crazy that you brought that up because someone noticed that too. Like they had all these images, like if you were out in the crowd, those images looked like they were there to kind of hypnotize people.

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Yes. No question in my mind. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, no question in my mind that he's trying to do some kind of symbolic hypnotism and stuff.

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And like, and there was these noises that took place were very strange at the very beginning of the show that I'd never heard- What noises?... in any other concert. Yeah. Any other concert.

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What, what noises you talking about? It went [imitates loud noise] like very loud and very, like it was way too loud to be like warning. It was kind of the introduction to... And you can hear it on Twitter.

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If you type in #Astroworld, you can see a lot of the stuff I'm talking about. But these very loud strange noises that maybe I'm just old, but to me they were very kind of like sonic crowd control type noises.

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So I think that when p- there were so many people online who said, "This was outright demonic. This had an evil energy," and I agree with them. I totally agree with them. What about...

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Okay, so someone else had a, it was a phone video. Um, at the beginning of it, it looked like all these spirits were walking across the top of that sta- Yeah. Have you seen that? Yes, I have. That was also creepy too.

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So there's like all these kind of, uh, silhouettes of people walking across the top of this mountain. So there's all kinds of like occult ascension type themes 'cause they're walking up the mountain.

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I mean, it's really something else.

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I think that somebody, I don't know if it's him or his production designers or what, but You know, and then you throw in this at the very beginning, or at least a certain part of that concert, there was a, either some kind of flaming demon or he deliberately or somebody deliberately used the symbolism of the phoenix, which is heavy duty.

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I saw that. Yeah. And, and it looked like it was going inside him. Like it- Yeah. Did you see that? Yeah. And I saw another one. It's crazy.

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Somebody said they saw like a silhouette of something coming from the sky and coming into him. Right, and coming h- into him. Kim saw that and said, "Do you..." [laughs] Yeah. It's crazy. So it gets really crazy.

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It gets really crazy. And we can talk about the deeper kind of meaning of the phoenix, but it's something that- What, what is it?... honestly, like the- Go ahead and tell me now.

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What is the deeper meaning for- Let's read from Manly P Hall. So Manly P Hall was a m- mason. He was probably the best mo- well-known mason in, in America or the Western world. He won tons of book- wrote tons of books.

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One is, uh, Secret Teachings of All Ages. It's a tome. It's really kind of like a, a grimoire of all these kind of ideas. And, and in that,

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i- and in his own book, I think it was The Phoenix, he writes about the phoenix as a symbol. So you'll see it around in occult environments of this, this phoenix.

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But here's him quoting Manly P Hall, "The phoenix is the one sign of the secret orders of the ancient world and of the initiate of those orders.

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For it was common to refer to one who had been accepted into the temples as a man twice born or reborn. Wisdom confers a new life, and those who become wise are born again."

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So it's almost like a parody of like a Christian rebirth. Crazy. This, this symbol of the phoenix. Yeah. It's all up in Harry Potter. I mean, all in it. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Great point.

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And Harry Potter's redolent with occult symbolism, all kinds of stuff. Yeah, it is, from top to bottom, back to front. Top to bottom. I mean, it is just wow.

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And, and alchemy, so this is also an alchemical sym- symbol as well. Right. So if he's deliberately using the phoenix, I haven't proved that it's a phoenix.

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I don't know if it's a flaming demon or what, but, um, it's t- it's about transmutation, which is Harry Potter as well. So Harry Potter, you know, he- you take clay and turn it into gold.

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So if you're following the Philosopher's Stone or, uh, you know, whatever they call it in, in Harry Potter, the Sorcerer's Stone, you're tr- you're transforming yourself, and that's how alchemy kind of transformed into a philosophical ideology.

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So he may be doing that as well. And, but the end, get this, is that you're transforming yourself into a god. Unreal. Um- Yeah... wow. Uh, okay.

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So tell me like, you know, [laughs] people I'm telling you, and dude, let me tell you something. I've never seen any type of, uh, instance where, um, something like this has just blown up, and people have just...

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You know, he's had so much backlash over it, but he had to have a team on 24/7.

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Someone is, someone has gotta be working with Google, man, because I tried to, you know, go on there, and, you know, 'cause he's, he's a little... He's weird anyway. You know what I'm saying? Right.

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He won't look at the camera and all this other stuff. You could not find, prior to this incident, you couldn't find a picture of Travis looking at a camera. Now, after this- Wow...

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incident, all the pictures [laughs] you search him on Google- Wow... you can see his eyes in every single pic- picture, and I'm telling you, they, they were not there before. Um- Wow.

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So he's like one of those types, he's always looking down, right? He's always looking down. That's a... Yeah, see Kanye went through that same p- position so. Like he's a slave. That's what...

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He's a slave to- Is that what that is? Huh... Satan. Yeah, that's what my understanding is. Okay. He's like a esoteric, that, that whole thing.

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But they scrubbed a lot of stuff out of there too of him because he, this wasn't his first concert disaster. Yeah. He's, there were other ones in the past. I didn't know about the other one.

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Yeah, there- What happened at the other one? So he wrote on his Instagram on March t- this is 2014, a long time ago. He wrote, "It's not a show until someone pass out." So that was liked by 5,000 people.

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So this, this was taken out. And then in back in 2015, he said, "Can he survive the rodeo in Houston?" So he kn- he kind of sensed or i- in my opinion, he knew that the, these sh- shows had some kind of, uh, stuff.

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There's a picture of him with bat symbolism, which is heavy duty. Like that bat flies at night and sees at night. So there's pictures of him all... If you go back, I don't know.

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I think, my understanding is they were deleted from Instagram. So he was at... And here's another quote from him, states that he wants blood at shows and relishes in fans, quote, "giving their bodies for him."

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So that was from Spoken Reasons on Instagram. That's crazy. And then he wrote... Now one more thing, and then he wrote another one with 17,000 other likes, "Last day of tour was tonight. Very wild.

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To that kid who black out, you're a hero." [laughs] This is just crazy. Another, there's another one- Go ahead... with a kid bleeding from his head, and he says, "Travis Scott, I love you." So 21,000.

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So there's a very much in it s- in my opinion, there... And then there's another one, says, "Only some make it." I can post these on my Twitter p- page. People can look at them.

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But it's clear that he's, in my opinion, he's encouraging this stuff. So that's- Let me ask you this. Okay, so have you looked at the date of his concert? Like is there any significance to the da- I don't know.

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I haven't looked at the date, but you know- I don't-... I know numbers are important, so. Numbers are important. Well, it's 11th, right? November is the 11th. 11th is a big number in the occult. Whether, what day was it?

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The 6th of November? I, I didn't, I didn't key into that. I saw it was. I don't know. I wonder what time he got on stage. The seventh? Was it sixth or seventh? Seventh. I can't remember. Yeah, sixth or seventh.

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I, I couldn't get the exact date. Huh. Now, okay, so I saw another video of, you know, he's... For one, his eyes. Someone caught his eyes, um, as he was going on stage.

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Almost looked like, you know, they were not his eyes. [laughs] It looked something weird. Maybe that's someone playing with the video. I don't know.

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But do you think that they are even for an instance while they're doing things like this, that they allow themselves or are told to let demonic beings take them over? I think that it's possible.

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I mean, I don't know really the details of what's going on behind the scenes or what he does. But I'm thinking of like Jim Morrison, who like It was like a ritual.

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He would ritualize his shows, and he thought he was possessed. And it's the same thing with, um, Freddie Mercury. He said he would go out on stage as the devil. That's what he was impersonating.

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So that was kind of what filled his mind when he went out on stage. So some of these other guys are doing that.

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But on the shirt, another thing people can look at of the night of that Astroworld disaster is his shirt shows these blue people going through kind of a- Yeah, what is some kind of- Yeah...

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a change or a mirror- Yeah, right... and then they come out on the other side a different color. What is that? Right, like they go through a portal.

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They go through some kind of portal to become another person with flaming hair. So that's also kind of this symbol of transformation, right? It's like the whole occult is about that transformation, like the phoenix.

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So he's playing these symbols off of one another. So he has multiple symbols showing in, uh, this one show showing this transformation, yeah. And so what about, um...

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Okay, so the poster that he used to, um, promote his concert was just weird. Look like a little demon child or something like that. Yeah, that one, the, "The true dystopia is here," that one? Well, what is that?

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What is- Yeah... what is dystopia? What is that? Uh, well, the dystopia is like the opposite of a utopia, right? So the utopia is the ideal society. A dystopia is like Mad Max.

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So all right, and he wrote this other quote, "Well, who knows what lies beneath the surface? When the end arrives, it's really the beginning." So he's got all these kind of wordplays.

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And then I said, then his, like, thing from Instagram said, "F it. Let's start it up. New music at midnight." So if he started at midnight, that would be another telling thing.

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These guy- this guy has huge amount of likes. He's got like 2,300,000 likes. He has a massive following.

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And it is also, another thing I'd like to point out for people who don't know, he promoted this occult show on, um, Fortnite. [laughs] Like he was a, he was going for the kids.

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One of the kids who died there was nine years old. I know. That's unbelievable. I could not believe it y'all when said that. Yeah. So it's not even that they let them into a very, in my opinion, very adult themed, uh,

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so concert, but like you're promoting it on, on Fortnite and these other things that little kids are watching. So they're going after the kids, man.

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Let me ask you something about Instagram too, and you know, a lot of people were, [sighs] um, were t- trying to say, you know, tell others, you know, "Don't follow him," and stuff like that.

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But think about the symbology of Instagram calling it follow. Um- Right. Yeah... yeah, I mean, [laughs] people still follow him.

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I mean, I don't think he's lost any followers, but isn't that interesting how they call it follow? But you know, um- Right... with, with Beyoncé and Jay-Z, they're really...

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It's like now it's, um, it's really kind of snowballing and people are like, um, saying things that, the, I mean they see it, you know what I'm saying?

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For those that have the eyes to see, like the last picture I saw of Jay-Z and Beyoncé's, I think it's on Beyoncé's Instagram. Um, you know, she's plainly got the, you know, the... What is that?

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The pyramid or something that they put the- Oh, right. Yeah, the magical pyramid. Yeah. The hand signal. Yeah They're both, you know, yeah, they're both flexing that pyramid and stuff. Yeah.

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And people are just calling them- That's magical... yeah. Yeah, they're onto it now. So- Jay-Z has all kinds of stuff. I mean- Oh, he does... he talks about the Rain Man.

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I mean, we can get into that whole story, but he's definitely occulted in my opinion. What is the Rain Man? Tell me about that. Well, like that's his like inspiration. That's where he gets his ideas.

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So it's, to me, it's like a symbol for Lucifer. So the Rain Man is like, uh, what he calls his, I think his inspiration. So I think there, he's referenced the Rain Man two or three times in his, in his songs.

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Huh, that's interesting. We got to do- Yeah... a show just on him and, and her. Well, that's, yeah, that's a whole thing. Oh, Beyoncé's got a church. I had no idea. Had a church. Has a church.

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She's got a whole alter ego, right? Doesn't she have like a, a whole nother name for herself? So she's got this- Yeah. Uh, what is it? What is it? I forgot the name of it. Yeah. I can't remember it now.

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But people were saying, "Oh, this..." You know, they were, they weren't nice, um, talking about that church that's in Louisiana where these people actually worship her. Um, I don't know the name of it, but.

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The, the Astro Festival was November 5th, so 11/5. I don't know if that has any occult meaning. Okay. 11/5, gotcha. So. What about Kylie?

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Kylie had that whole bl- bathing in the blood, uh, she was pregnant at the time, which is sickening- Yeah... um, before this happened.

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I mean, blood all over her, and it almost looked like it was, it reminded me of an aborted baby maybe. It was just weird. But she said she was, um, promoting Halloween ma- makeup, but it was just disgusting, man. Um,

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it's- See, I think that that whole squad from the Kardashians is into, their religion is kind of a new age occult religion, 'cause I've seen them all flashing that kind of like okay peace sign with the 3-6-6-6 symbol.

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Oh, yeah. So I've seen her mom- Yes, yeah... and also the guy who turned into a girl, or whatever his na- or her name is now. Bruce Jenner. Bruce, yeah. Yeah. Well, so that's... Yeah.

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What about, what about, um, the whole thing with, um, Kanye? He had that concert or something and, uh, he was in a stadium. It looked like he was on...

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I don't know where he was, but Kim come out in a, in a wedding gown, and you got all these people dressed in black. It was so weird, dude. Yeah. It looked exactly like some type of ritual to me- I think it was...

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when that was happening. It was.

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He borrowed a lot of his visuals from, uh, Jodorowsky, who's, well, I guess he was from Chile, but he's in France now, who's like a devotee of Crowley and a heavy much, heavy duty into occult, an admitted blood drinker.

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Drinks human blood. And that was somebody who, uh, Kanye went, went and traveled and, and met. Like there's pictures of them together.

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He's with like probably one of the arch occultists of our time, like somebody very high up, who did Holy Mountain and these, uh, other kind of occult themed, uh, esoteric themed movies. And, uh, yeah, I mean, there's...

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He officiated, Jodorowsky officiated Marilyn Manson's wedding like- So- [laughs] Yeah, and then get this, it's the strangest thing ever because I think these guys- It's crazy... are all now Christians.

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Have you heard the whole story of Marilyn Manson, and, uh, Kanye, and I think Justin Bieber together? No. What happened? Yeah, they were all together I think a couple weeks ago at a k- ostensibly Christian

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mass or, you know, ceremony, so it gets really weird. So it's really strange at the top. And she, uh... I know that Kardashian is friends with, um, Abramovic, right? The blood-drinking witch who was mentioned. Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah, yeah. So these guys- The one that-... have ties. It's like the Epstein crew, man. They got ties all over the place. Wow. Um, go ahead. And then Kanye West is a, just another one.

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I mean, he's said all kinds of strange stuff. He was possessed. I think he had a mental breakdown. But yeah, I think he was involved in, um... Yeah, he was involved... Yeah, I don't wa- I don't know.

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There's rumors about that guy that he- Why don't you say it? Just say it. [laughs]... switches. He's a switch hitter, or was a switch hitter. Oh, really? Yeah, that's a rumor, but... Yeah. I believe it.

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I b- I, I believe it. Anything's possible. Let me ask you something.

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Yes, because Kanye, um, Kanye, you know, he's supposedly he had this breakdown, and then he comes out, he has this blonde hair, which they say that's a symbol as, like, mind control, like maybe he's not himself anymore, and that's not Kanye anymore or whatever.

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Um, do you know the significance when, when they supposedly have a breakdown, and if they come back out into the public eye maybe, you know, their hair's different or something?

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It's some type of symbology for those that have the eyes to see it that, yeah, he's... They had to get him back in line, in other words. Because remember he was spouting off some crazy stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

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And so, um, they took- He was off the reservation. Yeah. [laughs] He was way off. Yeah, I don't know. He really was. I don't know. I don't know some of that stuff.

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But I do believe that part of the elite culture is very knowledgeable about stuff that came out in mind control over the '50, '60, '70s, '80s.

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So that leached out into the culture, and so the symbols and stuff got, got permeated into fashion, and music videos, and stuff like that.

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And Travis Scott is probably knows some- at least something or somebody around him. Yeah. Because I think he's using those techniques, at least some of them.

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Okay, so I wanna talk about him again because, you know, there's tons of videos of him actually looking at ambulance coming through the crowd, and these people supposedly, you know, had died. He's looking right at them.

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So hi- with him v- uh, visually seeing that someone is possibly dead, is he getting a charge or some type of energy off of that? He might.

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But I mean, there are videos of people, like, screaming, "Help, stop," and he's smiling along. He can clearly s- In my opinion, what I saw with him is that he's looking at them. And there were 300 people injured.

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There was a massive amount of bodies. So a lot of people got hurt, and th- fortunately only, um, 10 is a tragedy. It could've been much worse than that. But he didn't stop.

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They could've stopped the whole thing, and concerts do stop at times. There's been... The amount of concerts that have had stampedes and stuff are, are legion. There are so many, so they could've stopped.

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There were actually a couple videos I saw of two people from the audience rushing the stage saying, "Hey, you gotta turn this off," and they didn't get listened to. So- Right, I saw that too. Yeah... yeah. So

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there's a lot of problems, and they just got hit with a $750 million lawsuit, I think, on the 17th. So- I saw that, yeah. Yeah... yeah, they're in, they're in deep trouble.

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Man, I don't know how they're gonna get away from that, in my opinion. If you look at all the evidence that I could see casually, it just screams negligence, and I don't know. I hope that if his, if he's insured,

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yeah, wow, the insurers are in deep trouble, in my opinion, 'cause there's a lot of injuries. There's a lot of damage. Tell me something. Like, um, w- what about, like, have you...

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In history, I mean, has this happened before with other musicians having concerts and possibly- Yeah, there was-... having... Who else? There was... It wasn't Jay-Z. The Who was a notorious one.

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There was a stampede, and people died. There was one at an, uh, AC/DC concert, I think, in Utah. But it was also P. Diddy. If you remember P. Diddy, they had that one where, like, eight or nine people died.

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They were going through a tunnel. Do you remember that? And I think he skirted that one. No, I don't remember that one. Yeah. No, there was one with, uh, P. Diddy. Yeah. When he w- right when he was starting.

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He was either a producer or the musician, and, uh, there was a number of people who got crushed to death. I also saw on TikTok, uh, someone posted a, um,

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some type of clip from 1992, an episode of The Simpsons called "The Otto Show" where Bart Simpson was going to attend a, uh, Spinal Tap concert, and all these people got trampled and things like that.

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It's just wild, man. I mean, 'cause you see all these, um... Yeah, I don't know what it is about the Bar- [laughs] Bart Simpson stuff, but it's someone... I mean, how the hell is that, how the hell is that happening?

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I mean, how are some of these eerie, um, predictions happening in the Bar- Bart Simpson show, in The Simpsons show? So I don't, I don't know how it's happening. But yeah, it's, um, it's crazy.

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It says also it has in there, it shows Homer holding a news magazine with, with its cover reading, "Bat Boy actually predicts the Final Four." But it's the...

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It, it looks exactly like the opening of Travis Scott's, you know, his entrance- Really?... and his poster. [laughs] It looks just like- Wow... his poster. Wow. It's crazy. Have you seen that? No. No, I didn't see it.

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Wow, that's crazy. I'm not surprised. There's, they have weird kind of inside knowledge or something. I don't know what's going on. I don't know how the hell that's happening. I know they do. Yeah. Um, yeah.

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Um, it looks exactly like that weird, uh, poster that Travis Scott used to promote his concert.

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Um, but- There's actually an article out titled, "Remembering Diddy's Deadly Stampede 30 Years Before Travis Scott's Astroworld Tragedy." It was just put out in November, so Really? Yeah.

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So I think- So how many people got killed at his concert? Nine. Nine. Nine? Yeah, so in December 23rd, 1991- Oh my, I didn't know that...

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nine people were dead and at least 29 others were injured after an inpatient crowd tried to push their way into a city college gym to catch the game which members of Boyz II Men, Run-DMC, Jodeci, Heavy D, and Big Daddy Kane were playing in.

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And I think that was something. He was a small-time promoter back then. He still went by Puff Daddy. He wasn't P. Diddy yet. Oh, he was? Okay. And let me ask you something about, um, Jay-Z,

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which people think, you know, he's- [claws clicking] What was you... [laughs] Was that you? My cat. My cat's making noise. I'm trying to get his attention, sorry. Oh, okay. Um, tell me, like,

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is this some type of trade-off? People say that they're mind-controlled or some people even go further than that and say that these people are not who they are.

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They have actually died and been replaced because, you know, on my show I talk about, um, you know, the ability for the government to clone people. I do believe that's way far ahead than, than we, you know- Trust me...

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than the general public knows. Um, who knows what they're able to do, but some people think, you know, they, they get so big and then they're done away with, and lo and behold, they have a replacement.

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Um, and so I'm asking you, do you believe this is some type of mind control? These people are genuinely who they are or are they clones that just are told to do whatever and, and they do?

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I don't think they're clones in my opinion. I think that they become enamored with that world, and they do what they have to do to maintain what they want. It's like selling your soul to the devil, right?

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So they become easily hypnotized. They believe in hypnotism. They have all the symbology. And I think that the... And so then their, their shows become ritualized. They don't become just standard musical shows.

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They become ways to influence people and, uh, show them, you know, at least the initiated some of their symbolism and then kind of pull like, uh... hoodwink the rest, I guess, is one way to put it. 'Cause [laughs]

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that astro world is something else. The smiley face on the world is really incredible. Well, what is that? Tell me about the smiley face. What is the smiley face, and then what does that mean over the world?

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What does that mean? Okay. So the smiley face came out of... It was used frequently in the English kind of underground rave community. So it would be put on ecstasy.

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It would be in a lot of the, a lot of the kind of iconography and posters and things like that. So it came out kind of in a very kind of edgy, avant-garde kind of, uh, techno music, right?

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And so it came out of there, but then I, I think it even goes back to William Burroughs, and I think what it really symbolizes is kind of the world is a cosmic joke. And, uh, you're, you know, you're in on it, and the...

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it's a nihilistic kind of use of that symbol.

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And I think that comes from, and it's been used most predominantly in my opinion in, in Alan Moore, who was a comic book writer, used the symbol very predominantly in one of his comic books. And so, and then the...

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and the character who it's associated with is known as The Comedian who kills people and doesn't care. So it's, it's really is nihilistic, and I think it then it just pervaded.

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And you see a lot of, uh, people in the industry and cultural films and Hollywood wearing the symbol. It's... And it's integrated in so many films. It's off the charts.

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So s- it's kind of like an occulted term, so I believe people in the occult know much more of its use. And it might even be a tag.

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And the reason I c- I came across researching it was of something called the Smiley Face Killers, which I've done two documentaries about. You can see them on, uh, my Vimeo page.

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But it's associated with this, this phenomenon of young men going out at night and being found in river. And I've gotta give you a warning, it's happening again.

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It's happening in Chicago, and there's been a couple African American young men who I think have met similar fates. You really gotta be careful. I think something's operating again after COVID.

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So, and I covered that in my show, too. Uh, actually it involved... Do you know who Crumb is? Do you know who Crumb, the lawyer Crumb? He's represented people in civil rights cases. Oh, yeah.

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He's the one that represented the family in the George Floyd. Is he the one? Okay. So he... I think he, I think that's right. I think he represented the George Floyd.

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Well, he's now s- representing a young man by the name of Jelani Day, who went missing last month and was found in water. And it fits all of the MO of these other smiley face killing deaths that I've researched. Oh, wow.

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And Crumb is now representing the family. So they b- they're looking at it possibly as a, as a- Okay. So let me ask you that... you know, civil rights issue. That's some- But it's better than that... some form of what?

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Civil rights? Civil rights issue. And there was another young man, a very talented African American guy. His name was Ambrose Monye. You can look that up, M-O-N-Y-E. And he met a similar fate.

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He's just walking down the street, disappeared, and ended up in the lake. And so you can see these patterns. And then Chicago's definitely a h- uh...

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These types of deaths are more common in urban areas, and Chicago's one of them. Okay. So with it happening, you know, I mean, it's happening in, in... What is it?

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All over the United States or in- All over, all over the world. So that ties back- So this is a cohesive effort with some occultic group possibly? Yes. Gotcha. I think occult includes it.

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And that's the whole thing about, um, about Travis Scott's use of it is it's incredible. He put it on the world. And, uh, and Jelani Day went missing August 24th, 2021.

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He was a 25-year-old graduate student at Illinois State University He vanished in August 24th.

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His, his car was founded in a wooded area miles away where he was last seen, and then he ended up, um, floating in the Illinois River. That is crazy. Yeah, I'm gonna look that up. Um- Yeah, look up Jelani Day.

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Look up Ambrose Monye too. I covered him in my second Smiley Face Killer documentary, which is The Global Slaughter Continues. Do you think they're taken somewhere and then

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to maybe a group of people that are in this occult, um, I don't know what you would call it, but maybe they're doing it and they're all participating in a ritual with them, and then they're ending up in water?

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Let me ask you that. Are they showing any other signs of injury, or are they just dead in the water?

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It's a really good question because I think that a lot of these forensic pathologists who look at these cases just chalk it up to an accident, and I think it's...

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I think that the lean or the pull of the law enforcement is just to chalk it up to an accident and don't keep it on the files. It's the easier way than to say some misadventure happened.

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Like for example, Jelani Day was missing from August 24th. His body was found September 4th, so he's missing 10 days in water. Excuse me.

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He should've been found earlier than that, um, if he w- if that same day he, he died by misadventure. Especially, all these guys, there's massive searches. Like, they involve hundreds of people a lot of times.

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So where are they? And that's one of the big questions about the Smiley Face Killers and some of these other cases I study. Obviously, these guys are kept alive somewhere else.

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They're kept somewhere for whatever purpose. They have to be, right, right, right. And there was one of the original cases that was covered. The guy was frozen. Somebody took the guy,

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got him, I don't know what happened, but they put his body in a freezer and then threw him in the water to make it look like he had, hadn't died that early.

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And you know, and if you remember Richard Kuklinski, The Iceman, that's how he got his nickname, 'cause he would play with the police like that.

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So some of these murderers are calculating and thinking, and Richard Kuklinski was The Iceman because that's what he did. He would freeze the bodies and confuse the police. Do you- So- Go ahead...

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this smiley face that Travis Scott is using I don't think is a mistake. I don't, I think he knows it, the occult understanding of that. I'm gonna look, I'm gonna look that up.

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I mean, I don't think I've ever seen that actually used until his concert. But one thing I do wanna ask you is that, um... Wait a minute. It just slipped my mind here. [laughs] I don't know.

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There's some- Yeah, but there's a lot going on. You gotta really watch out too, especially if you're a young man, even a young woman. You know, you gotta be careful out there.

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There's some really bad actors, um, out at bars and things like that that, you know, you just don't... You wanna really watch out for. Yeah. Um, what are you, um...

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Real quick I wanna ask you something 'cause I know you've been having some shows about this too. Um, but y- it's strange that you don't see any [laughs]... Well, it's not strange.

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You know that they control the media, so no, we're not gonna hear about it. Ghislaine, what's going on with her trial right now?

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Well, it, it's actually was supposed to be a six-week trial, and then the prosecution ended, I think, in a week or, uh, not for very long. They didn't show that much evidence. And then the defense, nobody showed up.

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People who were subpoenaed to show up in court, they didn't show up, so she didn't even have any defense witnesses.

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So the defense rested, and I think it's going to the jury tomorrow or, or Tuesday, so there's a lot of curious things about that.

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Um, some of the information, some of the people that she abused, I think, came up, uh, in court, and there were very strange things about that.

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But there was something that came out in court, actually got somebody kicked off of Twitter, is that

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when the police went to the mansion in New York City and opened up, uh, the ca- uh, the, um, safe that was there, inside were pieces of video tapes that had already been covered with FBI tape. Really? [laughs] Yes.

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Do you, so do you know what that means? That they were, what it shows- They knew about it, right? Yes. Right. The FBI and, and Ghislaine- This is crazy...

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and, and Epstein had already somehow giving information to the FBI. That's what that would mean if the FBI had already given them tapes and handed them back to him. That's wild. So it's wild.

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But then you have, it gets much bigger because Ghislaine Maxwell's dad was a big time player. Like, he was operating the KGB probably, the MI6, the Mossad.

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So he was w- in, like, a high, highest level intel kind of person. So they- And who killed him out s- at sea? Well, that's another great question. You know.

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I mean, I, I actually just posted something about, uh, today about a guy who wrote the book, um, about his death. His name was, uh, was something... His name was Martin Dillon.

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He wrote The Assassination of Robert Maxwell: Israel's Super Spy. So you can go check that out. He sent me something right after Jeffrey Epstein died on August 10th, 2019. So I read out- Really?... kind of, yeah.

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So there, that book is out there, and he, um, he was actually kinda suppressed. Like, they didn't want that book to come out. Now this end- But that's a mystery. He was in deep trouble.

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Robert Maxwell was heavily in debt. He had looted pension funds. He was all coming to a head. So,

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um, you know, their, I think that their approach was that he was trying to get people on his side, and people were like, "Well, he can just go. He can just die," and that was it. Mm. This- Very suspicious. This is crazy.

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That's one of the most interesting cases ever. Um- Yeah... let me ask you something about, uh, Ghislaine and her, and her, uh, trial. Are they letting the public in there, or is this a, is this closed session or what?

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So the fe- it's a federal trial, so there's no... I guess in New York, I can't remember if it's federal in New York, but they won't allow video camera, but they're allowing people in.

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So there's a couple people that I know- How, by lottery? Are they doing a lottery or no? No, they're just, well, they just, uh...

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I thi- I don't think there's enough to, like, keep people out, but people are waiting in line, and they're either going into-... the courtroom or some side room to watch it on TV.

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So a couple people you can watch is Roberta Glass does The True Crime Report, or a guy by the name of Addy Ads, A-D-D-S, who's showing up every day and kinda doing stuff.

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And also it's Inner City Press is doing, uh, blow by blow, play by play kinda stuff about that. So it'll be interesting to see if it turns out.

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If she doesn't go to jail, I'll be really disappointed because [laughs] they didn't even show all the ev- To me,

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uh, people say, "Oh, this is rigged," but th- this case was so big they should've been a RICO case, like a mob case where they went after everybody. Yeah. 'Cause there were so many- Yeah, that's, that's what I'm saying.

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I mean, this had to be a huge operation. It did. And then she's the only one you bag? Yeah. It's crazy. No, you're absolutely right. It's totally crazy. There were hundreds of victims.

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There's been millions and millions of dollars of payouts. So there were hundreds of vict- I think there's been...

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They don't know who they paid out to, I think that's confidential, but they said that the number of payouts from Epstein fund was 125, so there's at least 125 people so far. So

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some of the girls are courageous enough to come out and tell their story. Um, but, um, yeah, so it's a huge case. [laughs] I mean- Well-... they were blackmailing pe- In my opinion it was a big blackmail.

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It wasn't just a s- The way that it's... So there's one way they're characterizing it is they just had Epstein and Ghislaine. That's it. Done. And they're gonna get arrested. To me, it's a huge operation.

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It's a r- racketeering, rackete- Yeah, they can't do that... like prostitution Just them themse- Yeah. [laughs] The other thing, the other thing that they're doing is it's just a pedophile operation, right?

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It's just that she was supplying women to Epstein so Epstein could abuse them. But that's not the whole story, 'cause Epstein was taking those women and farming them out.

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So what Epstein was doing was he was definitely, according to the evidence that I saw, having sex with them, but he was sending them out to his guys. Yeah, he was sending them out.

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Yeah, and what about all the other guys? Right. What about all the other guys that participated- Right... in all that? Right. I don't know- That's-...

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how many other people were raped, but there was the girl, one of the main girls, her name is Virginia Giuffre. She said she was k- I mean, what, pimped out?

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She was sent out to, like, three or four, at least four or five other people, including Prince Andrew, who she's suing right now. She's still in litigation with Prince Andrew and Alan Dershowitz.

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They've never, nobody ever asks that or talks about that, uh- Yeah... maybe a little bit about Andrew. But she's in litigation with Dershowitz right now. It's heavy.

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You can go look at the g- the paper that's flying around- I need to go look at it... between that, that lawsuit. It's still going on to this day.

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And Kevin Spacey also is being, uh, the criminal case of Kevin Spacey is taking- Oh, he's horrible. Oh, he is a horrible guy. Yeah, it's a whole nother story. He's horrible what he was doing.

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But there's a picture of him and Ghislaine on the thrones of, uh, I think it was in Buck- Buckingham Palace. These guys were, they were, they were involved in all kinds of stuff. And, uh, aw, man, it gets so deep.

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What about... Okay, so, uh, the last thing [laughs] Now, all those stories are getting lost. They should be told. They're getting lost in just Ghislaine's story. Yeah.

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And, okay, so, uh, the, the last thing I saw about Prince Andrew, he was asking the court to dismiss him from, you know, asking them to d- dismiss everything, you know. Um, I don't know what happened with that.

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I think that's ongoing. I thought I saw it the other day. But let me ask you something. What about all the names and stuff that she had?

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You know, they were saying, "She has all these names," and they found all this information about all these guys. Where is it, and who are they? Right.

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Well, I think that she knows a l- I think Ghislaine knows a lot of names.

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I think that Virginia Giuffre, who was one of the, just one of the many victims, named names, and she had it in the ar- If you remember, she sued Ghislaine in 2016 for defamation.

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And that, part of that case is why Ghislaine got arrested, because they believe she perjured. There's two counts of perjury in this criminal case that's taking place now, that came out of Giuffre versus Maxwell, right?

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And in those documents are Giuffre's autobiography, which contains a lot of information about Epstein. She literally wrote an autobiography that reveals a lot of stuff. Really?

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So there's their names there, but then there's the little black book, right? Right. They kept a very detailed black book that, uh, they updated and lovingly put in numbers. There are numbers to Trump,

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Clinton, all these people. There's m- I mean, you should go just see the Trump numbers. They have like eight or nine numbers for Donald Trump and his whole family.

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So they really were, had all of these contacts that were incredible, and those are people you could probably, in a RICO case, sit down and start interviewing, you know? "Oh, what happened? Tell me what happened.

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Do you know anything?" Right? Right. Exactly. Right. I mean, they've got other people. They got John Luke Brunel. Um, they've got other people that kind of are in that same kinda view, as Jeffrey Nar guard was one.

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But, uh, it was huge. There were a lot of people getting blackmailed. I mean, I can tell, I mean, [laughs] I mean, it was bad. They, they were

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in an industrial scale, um, in my opinion, an industrial scale kind of kompromat, compromise operation in part. Yeah. That's- And you know, one of the interesting things about her father, Robert Maxwell, one more thing.

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Sorry to interrupt, but- No, you're good... one more thing is that if you read his biography, it almost looks like Ghislaine Maxwell, who's in...

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So he had all these multiple biographies, but you see him with the Prince of Wales, you see him with Charles. You see Robert Maxwell with so many public figures. I mean, he really was a networker par excellence.

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He knew everybody, and, uh, you kinda see that same thing with his daughter. She, she picked up a lot from her dad. Yeah. That's my opinion. Let me ask you something.

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Okay, so have they ever said anything about all the evidence that they recovered? Because I'm wondering about the island. Um, [laughs] man, you know they got [laughs]... Oh.

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I don't know what they pulled out of the house. Oh. But they got some shit out, out the house. Tons. Tons. They, they probably have reams of information on everybody who set foot on that island.

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That was the reason it was there.

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It was probably like a Hellfire Club island where anybody with that, whatever your predilections or kinks were could be fulfilled, and they probably videotaped them just like they would- Yeah... in that mansion. Yeah.

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So it's just a huge compromise operation, and, uh, where all that information is I don't know.

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But that break- breaking that safe was very telling for me, because when the FBI broke that open I bet that they never expected that to happen.

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I bet Maxwell and Epstein never expected them to go break open that safe and find that stuff. Okay. All right.

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So, wow, um, so Roberta's been able to, to get access to the- She's doing daily shows, daily updates of everything she's seeing... she's able to get in every day? Yeah. Wow.

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You can see the day by day, and this will be interesting to see the jury deliberation. I wonder how long they'll take. I don't know. I, I'm keeping my fingers- I'll give it, I'll give it a week. Yeah.

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I, uh- When do they go into deliberation? Like I said, I think that the, the case ends, is either ended or ends tomo- I know it ended Friday, so the defense rested, and then they had some kind of preliminary

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hearing on charging hearing, and then it goes to trial tomorrow. So I mean, it goes to jury tomorrow, sorry. Oh, okay. Yeah. So... Amazing.

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So what have you, have you seen people, um, has anyone that she, you know, you named all these people she was with, um, over the years, have any of [laughs] them tried to support her in public, or are they just- No...

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crickets? That's the funny thing. Crickets. Crickets. I mean, she ha- she called a lot of people for defense witnesses, and I think only one showed up, and there was a big hubba in the papers- Who, and who was it?

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Who was it?... with the judge. Who was it? Oh, I don't remember offhand. I think it was one girl, like she worked with Maxwell back in the day. That was it.

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But none of her celebrity friend- friends or society friends showed up. Of course not. Of course not. Not even one. No. Not one could come to the defense, which is very telling to me. They do not wanna touch that.

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They don't wanna touch her at all, which is real- I mean, I don't know if that's, that influ- that sh- um, I don't know how much that will influence the jury, but to me, that's...

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She couldn't come up with one character witness. Not even her husband. I think she's married- [laughs]... to some guy who's a tech agent. I think her sister didn't even testify. That's cruel. You know what? Yeah.

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That is cruel. Her brother's out in public telling like she's being abused because she only gets an apple and a banana and a cracker in the morning or something. But- Oh, yeah, I saw that. I read that. I read it, yeah...

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yeah, so. And that- She's, she's been treated so horribly in- Yeah... in jail. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

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No, she deserves everything, in my opinion, deserves everything she got, and I think that she's so used to the high life, I think she's kind of an arrogant snot and a snob, in my opinion.

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So I think that she's used to the best and probably not faring well that great. But her family's super corrupt.

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Her dad was corrupt, and her sons, I think, I mean, the sons, his sons, he had nine children or something like, a lot of children, but there were two of the sons who were banned from partaking in any corporate act- activities in London for 10 years.

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I think that's what their judgment was. So they were literally, it would be like the equivalent of like me being a money manager, but I couldn't work on Wall Street at all for 10 years. That's crazy. Yeah.

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So they were, they were- Yeah... okay. Corrupt from top to bottom. Sh- sh- sh- Absolutely. Um- And then there were all kinds of allegations of secret bank accounts.

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So like he, and it, there were stories of, you know, him looting the pension funds, but where did all that money come back? Well, that's a good question.

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What happened to, um, I mean, you know that, you know, they have some offshore accounts somewhere, Jeffrey too, and, and- That's what heard, yeah... and probably.

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Do you think they found those, or did they say anything- I don't-... about that or anything? I don't know. I don't know where...

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I think that they found that Jeffrey's assets were worth $550 million, which nobody really knows where that came from.

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But they, they, I don't know how they knew where all that, that money came from or where his total assets were. There's other assets out there. And then Jill, Ghislaine Maxwell's loaded.

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She's worth like 200 million or 250 million as well. So where does that money come from? She doesn't really work.

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I mean, it's real- there's a lot of questions, and I think they weren't answered, and I think that should- She was getting paid for girls... probably. Yeah. They pro- probably what both were.

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And that's the whole thing why it should've been a RICO suit, 'cause they should have found out who was paying, how, where, how these transactions were taking place, where the kids came from.

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I think that they were probably getting children from Haiti, um, Venezuela, um, 'cause there are pictures of him, of Epstein, I think, with one of the heads of the Venezuelan state. I forgot his name.

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It was not Maduro, but the guy before Maduro. So, uh, I mean, it was a huge scale, and it all got covered up, and that's the sick thing. And there's probably victims that should have come to light and should...

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I think it would be a much, it would be a good use of tax dollars to really figure out the totality of it. But that's the whole cover-up aspect of it. And it's an interesting thing about this judge who's over the case.

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I don't know if you saw this, but before the c- two or three days before the case started, the Biden administration offered her a seat on the Federal Circuit Court. So she kind of like- You gotta be kidding me, man.

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Yeah. No. So she flew from New York. Well, she went from New York to DC to sit in front of all the Senates, the Senate Judiciary Committee to be confirmed during this case. She literally, in between- Oh my God...

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parts of the trial. You can go look it up. I forgot what her name was. But you can see, watch her. Is that incred- It's just, it's so corrupt. It's, I mean, it, it's redolent with corruption. Joe Biden.

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The administration o- gave her, promoted her to be on, I think, the Second Circuit Court. Oh my Go- oh my Lord. Yeah, no, it's like- This, this just, you just can't make this up. You can't make it up.

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Yeah, so I mean, the other thing is that she was, um, the judge, Alison Nathan is her name. So she, but she, she kept a lot of that information that they wanted covered up, covered up.

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So a lot of the stuff that the public really should know, I think is, um, not being put out. I think they kept it quiet. Let me ask you something about her dad.

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Um, I know he died at sea, but did they ever recover his body? Yes. They did. They recovered his body, and he was buried in Jerusalem like a, like a, you know, observant Jew.

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And, you know, with I think six heads of state, heads of the, [laughs] of, uh, the Israeli state were there to inter him. And I think members of the Mossad too. I do- I gotta go back and look at that, but Israeli.

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She's a nominee to be on the United States circuit judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, so she was just nominated That's crazy. It's crazy.

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And okay, so do you ever see anyone else being brought up on charges concerning Jeffrey and, uh, Ghislaine? Or is this, is this, or is this it?

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Like I, like I said, I think that this is kind of like the way that they're going to put it to rest is just take these two who are really at the center of everything and put it on, and, and prosecute them.

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So I think they killed Epstein. I think that he was, he was... It was too dangerous for them to go to any trial, and there are very, very, very powerful people, lots of money who could make that happen. So I, I don't...

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And I have seen, you know, Cyril Wecht and these other guys said that they looked at the autopsy report and said that certain hyoid bone was broken and other cartilage around the neck that was consistent with strangulation.

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So, um, not consistent with hanging. It's very different. It's very distinctly different. Yeah. To break the hyoid bone, I mean, that takes a lot of effort to do that. Yeah. Yeah. So and people heard screams that night.

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So I... That makes most sense to me is just a corrupt situation at the, at the jail. They, they may not have, they might... The people who work there may not even have had a choice.

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You know, like, "We're gonna do this whether you consent or not, and you're gonna keep your mouth shut." Yeah. You gonna shut up about it. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so yeah, as far as other people, there's so many people involved.

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I bet there, there's actually been kinda consequences. There's been a lot of things, strange, shady things that have happened with, uh, people in the corporate community.

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So like for example, there was a guy who was the head of Barclays who got fired, and there's a kind of infamous picture of him with Epstein and Bill Gates, and he was just let go. They... I know. The...

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My understanding is there was an internal investigation about that guy, and it didn't come back pretty, and he was let go. Literal CEO of a huge bank. So that was one, and there's been some other, other ones.

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Um, there's been some other firings and things like that, people let go. I'm trying to remember what this guy's name was. It's, um- Where'd you see that at? It was on the news, in the news.

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It was a Barclays Bank let go, uh, CEO let go. Let me see if I can find this. [keyboard clicking] Barclays Bank. While you're looking it up, let me ask you something.

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The fact that she de- declined to, uh, testify, do you think that hurt her? Or you think that's- I think that- That was the best thing to do...

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she's probably the best thing 'cause they could ask her incredible questions, and it wouldn't look good. I, I don't think that she's a very...

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I think to the, you know, to the jury who's probably not of her high class background, I think just her being there and the way she talks, I don't think she could, I don't think she would come off well. Did--

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Regardless of what she said, which, you know, could even hurt her even more if they ask questions and she takes a, "No, I'm not gonna answer that." Uh, the guy's name was Jess Staley, and I can...

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I'll send you the pic right now of him with Epstein. Staley? S-T-A-L-E-Y. Gotcha. S-T-A-L-E-Y. But yeah, here's a picture of him with Epstein, Gates, [sighs] um- Former-... head of the,

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what is it? Deputy head of the treasury. Yeah, so there's reverberations. How was, uh, uh- A lot of it's being handled quietly. Did you send it? Yeah. There it is. It's on text. There it goes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see.

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Oh. [laughs] Wow. Yeah, I got tons of stuff. Uh, here's a picture of, uh, Ep- Is that Bill Gates right there? Yeah, that's Gates right to the left. Uh, well, it's to the right of Epstein or to Epstein's left.

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This is crazy. Wow. It's crazy. I mean, d- just the fact that he's... Oh, so the rumor about Gates is that he was a beneficiary. He was, uh, somebody who hooked up with women through Epstein.

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So that's the rumor that led to his divorce. Really? Yes. I'm not surprised. Boy, they've been giving him hell, too. I think he turned off his comments there maybe on Instagram. But he had like over [laughs]

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half a- Oh... quarter of a million comments all just really giving him hell. Um- So this is the, this is the, um, a picture of the evidence that was given back to Epstein and Maxwell.

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Like, it literally says evidence on it, like they kept it in a, in a safe. Oh, this is crazy. Yeah. They knew about it. Yeah. Wonder who was the- That's your tax dollar at work... what were they doing?

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What were they doing, uh, for the... I don't know. And there's so many people involved, like- They never moved on it. So they knew about this shit, and they never did nothing [laughs] about it. Can you imagine?

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And it's in the 2009 documents w- of Epstein is that, uh, Robert Mueller said he is an asset of the FBI, or he's an informant of the FBI to our full knowledge. He admitted that in, in, on w- in writing.

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That document is legit. So they knew that Epstein was- Wow... giving information to the FBI. Yeah. But I hope the FBI didn't think they were just giving information to the FBI. See what I mean? Right. Right. Right. Yeah.

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That's exactly what you mean. Crazy. Crazy. Thank you for sending me that picture of Travis Scott that, that, um- Sure... that stage. That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, it's done.

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I mean, that's sex magic right there symbolized. Lingam and yoni, look that up. That goes way back. Those are very... And you can look at some of Crowley's tarot cards. Uh-huh. Same, it's same.

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I think it's the devil one or the goat one. It's the same imagery. It's the same imagery. It's the same imagery. Okay. And- Well- Go ahead... it's the imagery of...

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So, you know, I, I'm trying to say it like, what would it be? The rod going into a circle. The rod going into a circle. Okay. Gotcha. It's, it's sexual imagery. Oh, okay. Yes, yes, yes.

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I see exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. Um, I saw it, and I was watching the movie "The Mummy," the one with Tom Cruise in it. Mm-hmm. She had that symbol on her somewhere. Oh, really? Yeah.

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There's a lot in, in... Hollywood is full of all kinds of inside occult stuff It's a circle with a rod and a cross at a- Wow... yeah. Wow. Yeah, that's, uh- And that's what you're talking about, right? Yep.

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Send me another picture of it. Send me a picture of that symbol. Okay. I'll send you that. I'll send you all my... These are the old

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Travis Scott kinda statements where he was saying, "Oh, you know, it doesn't get good unless somebody's- Mm... gets, gets hurt." Here's kind of more- Did you just send it to me? Yeah, I'm sending all my stuff to you.

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Okay. I wanna see it. Here's the one with the kinda ener- Oh, man, yeah... the energy of the, um, demon entering Travis Scott from above, that blue one. See that? Is that what that is? Hold on a minute.

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That's what somebody said. I, yeah, I don't know. But there was something in that video- That's what Kim saw... that looked like- Yeah, yeah. She was telling me about that... yeah, that came down and, and- Uh-huh...

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it was a horror Looked like it went right inside him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. She was, she was- Um, is there a video of that? I mean, that's what I've been looking for because- Yeah, there's a video. Yeah.

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There's definitely one on Twitter. I found a lot of stuff in my research on Astroworld by just looking at #Astroworld, and I think that video will show up or it will take you to YouTube. Uh-huh.

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See you on the other side. Yeah. They were definitely getting hypnotized or something with all that- Definitely... that stuff. Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that. There's that too. Unbelievable.

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Thanks for sending me this stuff. This is great. Yeah, there's a lot. This is great. Okay. Um, yeah, all right. So go ahead, William, and tell my listeners about your shows, you know, how they can,

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um, keep up with what you guys are doing over there. Yeah.

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I've got, uh, William Ramsey Investigates, which is an investigative journalism podcast/broadcast, which you can listen to on iTunes or any other podcast distributer.

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I have five, uh, documentaries, two about the Smiley Face Killers on Vimeo, and I have five books. You can either get a signed copy at my website, William Ramsey Investigates, or you can buy them from Amazon.

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All right, William. It's always a pleasure. Many blessings to you, and I really appreciate your time. Blessings. Yeah, great. Thanks for having me. Great to be with you again.

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