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[mysterious music] Hi. You're tuned into UFO Witnesses with KTown, where you'll hear astonishing accounts of UFO sightings from around the world. In this edition, we bring you...
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May 7th, 1967, the same pattern was found in an incident at Arnett, Oklahoma, on May 7th, when Jerry Luck, a junior at the high school, was driving home at night.
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Passing in front of a school located in open farming country about a mile from his home, he glanced to the west and spotted a large white light, which was later determined to be the size of a dime at arm's length.
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As he continued on his way, the object moved toward his car. It had been at approximately 40 degrees elevation when he first saw it, but as it approached, it became parallel with his car.
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When Jerry arrived at home, he rushed inside, and his parents came out and observed the object as it hovered for a few minutes, then moved into the west at high speed and disappeared from sight.
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The light was white, they said, and they got the distinct impression that it was solid.
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May 13th, 1967, one of the few instances of a firearm being used against a UFO allegedly took place on May 13th, about 17 miles west of St. George, Utah.
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Michael Camiador, 24, a resident of National City, California, was en route to Salt Lake City to attend the funeral of his grandmother and told officials at St. George that he heard a strange, loud humming sound.
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At first, he thought it was a truck trying to pass, so he moved over but could not see any lights in his rear view mirror. He then put on his brakes and jumped off the truck.
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An object was hovering over his truck at an estimated altitude of 25 to 35 feet. It was an amber-colored circular object, which he estimated to be 40, 50 feet in diameter.
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Thoroughly frightened, Camiador reached into the truck, got his.25 caliber handgun, inserted a clip of ammunition, and began firing.
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He said he heard the bullets strike and ricochet, and the sound convinced him that they were striking metal. At this point, the object simply put on a burst of speed and was out of sight in just a few seconds.
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May 26th, 1967, another trio of young men experienced a typical car buzzing incident on May 26th.
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At 10:15 PM, the three boys were driving on Atrisco Avenue north of Central Avenue in Albuquerque, New Mexico, when they spotted a white light approaching from behind.
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The light darted back and forth across the road, and at first they thought it was the lights from a car being driven by a drunk.
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When the object got above the car, it kept their speed and movement along with them, and then the engine and lights died.
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They said they jumped out of the car, and as they looked up, the object flew away into the southwest at high speed. They all said there was no sound connected with the incident.
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There is a thread of continuity running through all of these cases. They all took place at night.
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In all cases, the object was seen at a distance, and then it zeroed in on the car and either hovered over it if it stopped or followed it if it continued on its way.
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In some instances, when the car and its occupants reached a home or destination, the object stayed around just a short time, then demonstrated its amazing speed by darting off into the night.
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In others, engines and lights were apparently neutralized so that the driver couldn't proceed. Yet if the driver got out of the car, the object would leave immediately.
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We might speculate here that the object and its occupants were experimenting to learn the speed of ground vehicles and/or to determine how human beings react under stress.
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Different people react differently to UFO encounters, as we shall see in the next two cases. June 29th, 1970. On the night of June 29th, 1970, at approximately 9:32, Mr.
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and Mrs. R and their two sons of Apopka, Florida, were returning home from Orlando when Mrs.
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R spotted a glowing green oval object with a smaller blue ring about 1,000 feet to the right of their car and approximately 100 feet off the ground.
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She called it to the attention of her husband, who was driving, and when Mr. R spotted it, it was descending at about a 45 degrees angle toward their car.
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They estimated the blue ring to be about 20 feet in diameter, and Mrs. R got the impression the ring was depressed into the object. Both witnesses noted that the object had a hazy edge and that the bottom was convex.
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The R car was traveling at about 45 miles per hour when the object was first sighted, but after it moved in and over the car, Mr. R accelerated to about 90 miles per hour.
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He felt the object was higher than the nearby service power lines, but his wife felt it was lower. It paced the car for about a mile, but as the car passed under a streetlight, it was temporarily lost from sight. Mr.
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R slowed the car to turn into the driveway of his home, which is located in the orange groves surrounding Apopka, and the UFO moved slightly ahead.
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As the Rs ran from their car to their house, the object made a level close, one hundred feet in diameter, sweep of the area and moved off, leaving a trail of mist about twenty feet wide, which gave off an apple green light.
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It hung in the air a few minutes before dissipating. His father, who lived next door, also observed the mist which spread out evenly and lost its glow, but did not fall to the ground.
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The path of the mist left by the UFO was thick on the outside of the turn and thin on the inside. At first, the RAS could see the stars through the thick part of the mist.
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Their dog, which was in the car during the incident, did not react to the object's presence, whereas a second dog belonging to her mother ran off howling just before the Rs and the UFO arrived at the house.
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Oklahoma is the site of our next car UFO encounter, only in this instance one of the witnesses not only felt fear, but also a sort of strange desire to stay and watch. October 16, 1973.
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On the 16th of October 1973, Mr. and Mrs.
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Bill Hatchett and their daughter Valerie, nine, and their four-year-old son were driving to their rural residence near Cushing, Oklahoma, after having visited with relatives who lived between Sand Springs and Tulsa.
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It was about 12.20 a.m. when Mr. Hatchett noticed a very bright light south and east of his pickup truck as it traveled west on the country road between state highways 97 and 33.
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He at first thought it must have been an REA pole light at a nearby farmhouse, but the light seemed to be moving with the truck and getting closer. By this time, Mrs.
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Hatchett was also watching intently and said it appeared to be getting closer to the ground and turning to an intercept course with the pickup.
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She began begging her husband to stop the truck and he finally complied with her wishes.
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The object, which was emitting the light, moved closer and hovered at a point about even with the front of the pickup and just south of the fence row on the south side of the road at an apparent altitude of 150 to 200 feet above the ground.
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The Hatchetts heard or felt, or both, an intense and penetrating low-pitched humming sound and a stillness fell round about just as one might experience before a storm.
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The very air seemed charged and oppressive as the gigantic thing hovered there. Mr.
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Hatchett estimated the size of the object to be equal to the dimension of a Boeing 707 jetliner and he had to shield his eyes with his hand from the blinding white lights which were emitted by the forward part of it.
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His wife, during this time, had gotten out of the pickup and had walked to the side nearest to where the object was hovering.
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She walked there by walking around the back of the pickup rather than around the front because of her fear of the craft. Mr. Hatchett, very frightened, ordered her back into the pickup.
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She complied but got out of the pickup two more times and repeated her short journey each time and each time was ordered back into the truck by her husband.
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The Hatchetts observed that the object appeared to change shape as it hovered and neither could determine what, in fact, it really was.
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The whole object emitted a white light and the forward section had an intense emission of white light that seemed to revolve from the top to the bottom of the front end.
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Behind this front area were three belts of lights that appeared to encircle the craft and blinked all the time. The first belt of these lights from the front were white in color.
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The other belts probably were also white but neither could be certain of this because of the intense white light being emitted from the forward section.
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Behind the object were two red lights toward the top, one white light near the center and two red lights near the bottom. Although Mr.
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Hatchett was constantly expressing his desire to drive on and put some distance between them and the object, his wife kept imploring him to remain there.
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The last time that he ordered his wife back into the pickup, he did, however, drive away.
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As the pickup moved west down the country road, the object crossed the road and proceeded off in a northeasterly direction toward the distant lights of Tulsa, increasing altitude as it did so, never getting up very much speed.
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As it was going away from them, they observed that there were three red lights visible on the back end of the object, which were in the form of a triangle, and in the center of this triangle was one white light.
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The way in which the lights on the craft had blinked while it hovered reminded Mrs. Hatchett of the lights on a computer.
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00:12:13.628 --> 00:12:30.768
During the time that the object was near the pickup, both of the Hatchetts had an intense feeling that the object or its occupants knew everything, and that the power that they or the object possessed was limitless. Mrs.
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Hatchett stated that she felt chilled when she was out of the pickup, even though the night was not sufficiently cold to chill her.
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She further stated that the feeling of being chilled may have been caused by her excitement and other emotions stimulated by beholding such an awesome sight.
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Valerie, their nine-year-old daughter, was extremely frightened during the encounter. The humming sound the object made and its tremendous size completely overwhelmed her.
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She expressed the feeling that her four-year-old brother had been fortunate in that he had remained asleep during the entire episode.
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When the Hatchetts arrived at the next town, Drumright, Oklahoma, they stopped and reported the incident to a police officer, but he did not take the report seriously, which was still fairly typical of the attitude of law enforcement agencies at that time.
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UFO reports which involved objects pacing, chasing, or hovering over motor vehicles continued to come into APRO headquarters, but a large number of such incidents during a relatively short space of time did not occur again until 1974.
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For more of the most baffling UFO accounts ever reported, follow or subscribe to this podcast right now so you never miss an episode.
1
00:00:00.700 --> 00:00:11.940
[mysterious music] Hi. You're tuned into UFO Witnesses with KTown, where you'll hear astonishing accounts of UFO sightings from around the world. In this edition, we bring you...
2
00:00:12.860 --> 00:00:26.200
May 7th, 1967, the same pattern was found in an incident at Arnett, Oklahoma, on May 7th, when Jerry Luck, a junior at the high school, was driving home at night.
3
00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:42.240
Passing in front of a school located in open farming country about a mile from his home, he glanced to the west and spotted a large white light, which was later determined to be the size of a dime at arm's length.
4
00:00:42.900 --> 00:00:58.140
As he continued on his way, the object moved toward his car. It had been at approximately 40 degrees elevation when he first saw it, but as it approached, it became parallel with his car.
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00:00:58.180 --> 00:01:10.980
When Jerry arrived at home, he rushed inside, and his parents came out and observed the object as it hovered for a few minutes, then moved into the west at high speed and disappeared from sight.
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00:01:11.470 --> 00:01:16.619
The light was white, they said, and they got the distinct impression that it was solid.
7
00:01:17.060 --> 00:01:32.260
May 13th, 1967, one of the few instances of a firearm being used against a UFO allegedly took place on May 13th, about 17 miles west of St. George, Utah.
8
00:01:32.620 --> 00:01:49.080
Michael Camiador, 24, a resident of National City, California, was en route to Salt Lake City to attend the funeral of his grandmother and told officials at St. George that he heard a strange, loud humming sound.
9
00:01:49.600 --> 00:02:02.440
At first, he thought it was a truck trying to pass, so he moved over but could not see any lights in his rear view mirror. He then put on his brakes and jumped off the truck.
10
00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:18.720
An object was hovering over his truck at an estimated altitude of 25 to 35 feet. It was an amber-colored circular object, which he estimated to be 40, 50 feet in diameter.
11
00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:29.680
Thoroughly frightened, Camiador reached into the truck, got his.25 caliber handgun, inserted a clip of ammunition, and began firing.
12
00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:44.920
He said he heard the bullets strike and ricochet, and the sound convinced him that they were striking metal. At this point, the object simply put on a burst of speed and was out of sight in just a few seconds.
13
00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:56.200
May 26th, 1967, another trio of young men experienced a typical car buzzing incident on May 26th.
14
00:02:56.240 --> 00:03:08.220
At 10:15 PM, the three boys were driving on Atrisco Avenue north of Central Avenue in Albuquerque, New Mexico, when they spotted a white light approaching from behind.
15
00:03:08.230 --> 00:03:16.560
The light darted back and forth across the road, and at first they thought it was the lights from a car being driven by a drunk.
16
00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:25.340
When the object got above the car, it kept their speed and movement along with them, and then the engine and lights died.
17
00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:37.690
They said they jumped out of the car, and as they looked up, the object flew away into the southwest at high speed. They all said there was no sound connected with the incident.
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00:03:38.180 --> 00:03:45.480
There is a thread of continuity running through all of these cases. They all took place at night.
19
00:03:45.540 --> 00:03:58.120
In all cases, the object was seen at a distance, and then it zeroed in on the car and either hovered over it if it stopped or followed it if it continued on its way.
20
00:03:58.660 --> 00:04:11.920
In some instances, when the car and its occupants reached a home or destination, the object stayed around just a short time, then demonstrated its amazing speed by darting off into the night.
21
00:04:12.460 --> 00:04:24.580
In others, engines and lights were apparently neutralized so that the driver couldn't proceed. Yet if the driver got out of the car, the object would leave immediately.
22
00:04:24.620 --> 00:04:37.700
We might speculate here that the object and its occupants were experimenting to learn the speed of ground vehicles and/or to determine how human beings react under stress.
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00:04:38.320 --> 00:04:55.620
Different people react differently to UFO encounters, as we shall see in the next two cases. June 29th, 1970. On the night of June 29th, 1970, at approximately 9:32, Mr.
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00:04:55.980 --> 00:05:02.640
and Mrs. R and their two sons of Apopka, Florida, were returning home from Orlando when Mrs.
25
00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:15.260
R spotted a glowing green oval object with a smaller blue ring about 1,000 feet to the right of their car and approximately 100 feet off the ground.
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00:05:15.700 --> 00:05:26.700
She called it to the attention of her husband, who was driving, and when Mr. R spotted it, it was descending at about a 45 degrees angle toward their car.
27
00:05:27.100 --> 00:05:44.720
They estimated the blue ring to be about 20 feet in diameter, and Mrs. R got the impression the ring was depressed into the object. Both witnesses noted that the object had a hazy edge and that the bottom was convex.
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00:05:45.260 --> 00:05:59.560
The R car was traveling at about 45 miles per hour when the object was first sighted, but after it moved in and over the car, Mr. R accelerated to about 90 miles per hour.
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00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:15.608
He felt the object was higher than the nearby service power lines, but his wife felt it was lower. It paced the car for about a mile, but as the car passed under a streetlight, it was temporarily lost from sight. Mr.
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00:06:15.888 --> 00:06:27.348
R slowed the car to turn into the driveway of his home, which is located in the orange groves surrounding Apopka, and the UFO moved slightly ahead.
31
00:06:27.508 --> 00:06:45.748
As the Rs ran from their car to their house, the object made a level close, one hundred feet in diameter, sweep of the area and moved off, leaving a trail of mist about twenty feet wide, which gave off an apple green light.
32
00:06:45.788 --> 00:06:58.688
It hung in the air a few minutes before dissipating. His father, who lived next door, also observed the mist which spread out evenly and lost its glow, but did not fall to the ground.
33
00:06:59.077 --> 00:07:12.447
The path of the mist left by the UFO was thick on the outside of the turn and thin on the inside. At first, the RAS could see the stars through the thick part of the mist.
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00:07:12.548 --> 00:07:27.968
Their dog, which was in the car during the incident, did not react to the object's presence, whereas a second dog belonging to her mother ran off howling just before the Rs and the UFO arrived at the house.
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00:07:28.648 --> 00:07:44.408
Oklahoma is the site of our next car UFO encounter, only in this instance one of the witnesses not only felt fear, but also a sort of strange desire to stay and watch. October 16, 1973.
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00:07:44.948 --> 00:07:49.848
On the 16th of October 1973, Mr. and Mrs.
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00:07:50.168 --> 00:08:05.968
Bill Hatchett and their daughter Valerie, nine, and their four-year-old son were driving to their rural residence near Cushing, Oklahoma, after having visited with relatives who lived between Sand Springs and Tulsa.
38
00:08:06.028 --> 00:08:21.688
It was about 12.20 a.m. when Mr. Hatchett noticed a very bright light south and east of his pickup truck as it traveled west on the country road between state highways 97 and 33.
39
00:08:22.248 --> 00:08:34.748
He at first thought it must have been an REA pole light at a nearby farmhouse, but the light seemed to be moving with the truck and getting closer. By this time, Mrs.
40
00:08:34.928 --> 00:08:45.428
Hatchett was also watching intently and said it appeared to be getting closer to the ground and turning to an intercept course with the pickup.
41
00:08:45.488 --> 00:08:52.248
She began begging her husband to stop the truck and he finally complied with her wishes.
42
00:08:52.257 --> 00:09:09.588
The object, which was emitting the light, moved closer and hovered at a point about even with the front of the pickup and just south of the fence row on the south side of the road at an apparent altitude of 150 to 200 feet above the ground.
43
00:09:10.068 --> 00:09:23.008
The Hatchetts heard or felt, or both, an intense and penetrating low-pitched humming sound and a stillness fell round about just as one might experience before a storm.
44
00:09:23.648 --> 00:09:28.968
The very air seemed charged and oppressive as the gigantic thing hovered there. Mr.
45
00:09:29.188 --> 00:09:46.068
Hatchett estimated the size of the object to be equal to the dimension of a Boeing 707 jetliner and he had to shield his eyes with his hand from the blinding white lights which were emitted by the forward part of it.
46
00:09:46.148 --> 00:09:54.088
His wife, during this time, had gotten out of the pickup and had walked to the side nearest to where the object was hovering.
47
00:09:54.668 --> 00:10:07.528
She walked there by walking around the back of the pickup rather than around the front because of her fear of the craft. Mr. Hatchett, very frightened, ordered her back into the pickup.
48
00:10:08.148 --> 00:10:20.368
She complied but got out of the pickup two more times and repeated her short journey each time and each time was ordered back into the truck by her husband.
49
00:10:20.378 --> 00:10:29.388
The Hatchetts observed that the object appeared to change shape as it hovered and neither could determine what, in fact, it really was.
50
00:10:30.128 --> 00:10:42.048
The whole object emitted a white light and the forward section had an intense emission of white light that seemed to revolve from the top to the bottom of the front end.
51
00:10:42.728 --> 00:10:55.008
Behind this front area were three belts of lights that appeared to encircle the craft and blinked all the time. The first belt of these lights from the front were white in color.
52
00:10:55.588 --> 00:11:06.448
The other belts probably were also white but neither could be certain of this because of the intense white light being emitted from the forward section.
53
00:11:06.588 --> 00:11:15.748
Behind the object were two red lights toward the top, one white light near the center and two red lights near the bottom. Although Mr.
54
00:11:15.848 --> 00:11:27.088
Hatchett was constantly expressing his desire to drive on and put some distance between them and the object, his wife kept imploring him to remain there.
55
00:11:27.648 --> 00:11:33.618
The last time that he ordered his wife back into the pickup, he did, however, drive away.
56
00:11:34.188 --> 00:11:48.668
As the pickup moved west down the country road, the object crossed the road and proceeded off in a northeasterly direction toward the distant lights of Tulsa, increasing altitude as it did so, never getting up very much speed.
57
00:11:49.248 --> 00:12:03.348
As it was going away from them, they observed that there were three red lights visible on the back end of the object, which were in the form of a triangle, and in the center of this triangle was one white light.
58
00:12:04.088 --> 00:12:12.848
The way in which the lights on the craft had blinked while it hovered reminded Mrs. Hatchett of the lights on a computer.
59
00:12:13.628 --> 00:12:30.768
During the time that the object was near the pickup, both of the Hatchetts had an intense feeling that the object or its occupants knew everything, and that the power that they or the object possessed was limitless. Mrs.
60
00:12:30.888 --> 00:12:39.128
Hatchett stated that she felt chilled when she was out of the pickup, even though the night was not sufficiently cold to chill her.
61
00:12:39.668 --> 00:12:50.588
She further stated that the feeling of being chilled may have been caused by her excitement and other emotions stimulated by beholding such an awesome sight.
62
00:12:51.108 --> 00:13:02.168
Valerie, their nine-year-old daughter, was extremely frightened during the encounter. The humming sound the object made and its tremendous size completely overwhelmed her.
63
00:13:02.248 --> 00:13:11.788
She expressed the feeling that her four-year-old brother had been fortunate in that he had remained asleep during the entire episode.
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00:13:11.828 --> 00:13:29.768
When the Hatchetts arrived at the next town, Drumright, Oklahoma, they stopped and reported the incident to a police officer, but he did not take the report seriously, which was still fairly typical of the attitude of law enforcement agencies at that time.
65
00:13:29.908 --> 00:13:48.898
UFO reports which involved objects pacing, chasing, or hovering over motor vehicles continued to come into APRO headquarters, but a large number of such incidents during a relatively short space of time did not occur again until 1974.
66
00:13:49.528 --> 00:13:55.868
For more of the most baffling UFO accounts ever reported, follow or subscribe to this podcast right now so you never miss an episode.
