July 17, 2026
A 1968 UFO Incident at Minot - Part One
In 1968, security personnel and radar operators at Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota reported tracking an unidentified object that maneuvered erratically over the base's missile silos, an incident that later became a notable case in UFO/UAP research due to corroborating radar and visual evidence.
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Transcript
WEBVTT
00:00.251 --> 00:04.297
[SPEAKER_01]: Hi there, I'm K-Town, and on this edition, I'm a serious radio.
00:26.217 --> 00:31.423
[SPEAKER_00]: A 1968 UFO incident at Minot Air Force Base by Charles Lear.
00:31.964 --> 00:43.117
[SPEAKER_00]: At the suggestion of Mr. Martin Willis, this week we are looking at a report involving a UFO incident on October 24, 1968 at Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota.
00:43.577 --> 01:01.305
[SPEAKER_00]: It involves sightings reported by ground observers stationed at the surrounding minute-man ICBN complex, as well as the crew of a B-52, but gives us case extra significance, is that there are available photos of the B-52 radar scope to back up the cruise account.
01:01.725 --> 01:03.746
[SPEAKER_00]: There is a project blue book file on my case.
01:04.086 --> 01:14.290
[SPEAKER_00]: They contains the conclusion that what was seen was possibly a combination of anomalous propagation of radar returns, a plasma ball, and celestial bodies.
01:14.690 --> 01:20.672
[SPEAKER_00]: But an exceptional investigation began in 2000 by members of the recently formed Scientist Circle Group.
01:21.092 --> 01:24.993
[SPEAKER_00]: Indicates that the incident involves something genuinely mysterious.
01:25.513 --> 01:27.714
[SPEAKER_00]: The case came to the attention of S.H.G.
01:27.754 --> 01:39.998
[SPEAKER_00]: researchers when one of the B-52 crew members kept in Bradford, Ronin, USAF, retired, contacted the Center for UFO studies in 2000 and filled out a QPOS UFO questionnaire.
01:40.398 --> 01:54.798
[SPEAKER_00]: The researchers, Thomas Telly and Jan Aldrich and James Clots, spent the next several years collecting documentation and interviewing the B-52 crew members, non-crew pilot Major James Parton, and Air Force Personnel Station of Minot.
01:55.118 --> 01:57.922
[SPEAKER_00]: They made the results of their efforts available online.
01:58.342 --> 02:07.767
[SPEAKER_00]: As part of the signed oral history project at a site devoted to the case, 24 October 1968, my not Air Force Base, North Dakota.
02:08.187 --> 02:18.152
[SPEAKER_00]: This case came at a time when Project Blueville could just come under scrutiny by the U.S. Congress after scientific consultant Jayle and Heinrich had made the suggestion and Michigan
02:18.472 --> 02:26.975
[SPEAKER_00]: that people had been seeing March gas, the papers reported he said swamp gas, during a UFO flat-around dexter in March of 1966.
02:27.395 --> 02:36.518
[SPEAKER_00]: Gerald Ford, who was the state representative then, and the House Minority Leader, moved the armed surfaces committee to hold a hearing on April 5, 1966.
02:36.978 --> 02:44.340
[SPEAKER_00]: There to answer questions, for Secretary of the Air Force Harold Brown, Project Blue Book Director, Hector, Kintenia, and Heinek.
02:44.760 --> 03:06.413
[SPEAKER_00]: The outcome was that the Air Force was moved to fund a scientific study that the University of Colorado, headed by Dr. Edward U. Condon, to aid the efforts of what became known as the Condon Committee, Air Force Regulation 80-70 was put into place, which required prompt reporting and rapid evaluation of data for successful identification.
03:06.951 --> 03:13.572
[SPEAKER_01]: It is stated, just after the description that strict compliance with this regulation is mandatory.
03:14.093 --> 03:34.737
[SPEAKER_00]: The blue book file available on the sign oral history project site has a series of 12 memos between blue book, strategic air command, and personnel at Minot Air Force Base, that tell a story of the evolution of the blue book investigation from the first contact with the Minot Air Force Base UFO investigator, Lieutenant Arthur J. Warlic.
03:35.237 --> 03:47.337
[SPEAKER_00]: The first memo was dated 24 October 1968, and describes how Lieutenant Morano, who wrote the memo, was told by a foreign technology division duty officer that they had gotten a report of
03:47.805 --> 04:03.389
[SPEAKER_00]: an important UFO sighting at Minot, Marano wrote that he told Kintany about it and then called Warlic, according to him, Warlic hadn't expected a response that night and described the duty officer as being more excited about the incident than he was.
04:03.909 --> 04:11.391
[SPEAKER_00]: Marano wrote that Warlic conceded that it was an unusual sighting and asked if those at Blue Book could help him in any way.
04:11.913 --> 04:20.458
[SPEAKER_00]: Morano then included the details of the sightings as told in by Warlic, starting with a brief summation of the encounter by the B-52 crew.
04:20.918 --> 04:32.624
[SPEAKER_00]: At 0-300 hours local, a B-52 that was about 39 miles northwest of Minot Air Force Base and was making practice penetrations, cited an unidentified blip on the radar.
04:33.124 --> 04:38.767
[SPEAKER_00]: Initially, the target traveled approximately 2.5 miles and 3 seconds, or at about 3,000
04:40.644 --> 04:46.308
[SPEAKER_00]: After passing from the right to the left of the plane, it assumed a position on the left wing of the 52.
04:46.809 --> 04:53.774
[SPEAKER_00]: The blip stayed off the left wing for approximately 20 miles, at which point it broke off, scope photographs were taken.
04:54.234 --> 05:04.302
[SPEAKER_00]: When the target was close to the B-52, neither of the two transmitters in the B-52 would operate properly, but when it broke off, both returned to normal functions.
05:04.833 --> 05:13.377
[SPEAKER_00]: Willakasa described settings of a bright orange red object by at least 15 people on the ground around the time of the B-52 encounter.
05:13.858 --> 05:25.884
[SPEAKER_00]: In addition, he said that a security alarm for both the inner and outer ring of one of the missile sites had been activated and that the outer door was found open and the combination lock in the inner door had been moved.
05:26.423 --> 05:35.507
[SPEAKER_00]: According to Morano, Kintenia told him that the blue book staff needed more precise information before they could do anything, and Warlick said he'd get it for them.
05:36.027 --> 05:41.430
[SPEAKER_00]: Rather than go through all 12 memos individually, we'll sum them up in a narrative as best we can.
05:42.030 --> 05:50.596
[SPEAKER_00]: On October 28, Colonel Wien, from Strategic Air Command HQ, called to find out how Blue Book could receive the report and who was handling it.
05:50.936 --> 05:54.939
[SPEAKER_00]: He was told that they got the report by phone and that Marana was handling it.
05:55.260 --> 06:10.070
[SPEAKER_00]: That same day, Colonel Wien called back the Memorider got the name wrong and identified him as Colonel Wien and wanted to know if Blue Book personnel ever participated in investigations and was told by Marana that they seldom went out into the field.
06:10.578 --> 06:17.001
[SPEAKER_00]: Marano Totem, they felt that Warlick was quite confident and didn't require any assistance from them at that time.
06:17.581 --> 06:26.285
[SPEAKER_00]: On October 29, Colonel Polin from Sack HQ called and asked for in Kintenea's words, a brief rundown of the Minoxidies.
06:26.785 --> 06:32.728
[SPEAKER_00]: Kintenea Totem, that the blip on the radar, could have been caused by the aircraft transmission receiver.
06:33.108 --> 06:40.312
[SPEAKER_00]: that there was an inversion in that people could have been seeing celestial bodies affected by the inversion and sentilation.
06:40.732 --> 06:47.536
[SPEAKER_00]: Pullen asked for a preliminary report and Kintenia told him he needed a more precise timeline from Warlic.
06:47.916 --> 06:52.118
[SPEAKER_00]: Pullen asked if they had sent anyone to Minot and Kintenia told him no.
06:52.578 --> 07:00.842
[SPEAKER_00]: and explained that he only had four people on his staff including himself, a secretary, an assistant, and an administrative sergeant.
07:01.202 --> 07:09.365
[SPEAKER_00]: Pulling again, asked for a preliminary report so that in Cantonese words, he could give it to General Stewart and get this thing simmered down.
07:09.745 --> 07:12.766
[SPEAKER_01]: The memo describing this exchange ends with this.
07:13.127 --> 07:19.089
[SPEAKER_00]: He requested that Colonel Cantonese it a little heavy on what has happened to other aircraft on occasions like this.
07:19.469 --> 07:20.009
[SPEAKER_00]: This would help
07:21.808 --> 07:26.149
[SPEAKER_00]: Morano phoned Minot and spoke with Sergeant Hoy as Warlic was flying.
07:26.709 --> 07:40.234
[SPEAKER_00]: He requested that Warlic send the navigator with someone to interview all the observers in order to obtain precise details covering all the circumstances around the sightings and said that Warlic should send those by tell a time.
07:40.594 --> 07:44.815
[SPEAKER_00]: He specifically stated that the following was to be sent to them by mail.
07:45.295 --> 07:59.301
[SPEAKER_00]: A map of the area, a map of the flight path of the B-52 from 0-258 hours until it landed, AF-117 forms, citing report forms, from all the observers, and copies of the radar scope photos.
07:59.802 --> 08:09.546
[SPEAKER_00]: Whirlett called and talked to Marano, and told him he didn't see how the navigator could help, but said he himself had people fill out the forms, while he monitored them, and showed them
08:14.248 --> 08:25.098
[SPEAKER_00]: In the course of their conversation, we're like told him that there were farm peels where the light was seen by observers at the November 7 site, and that it could not have been produced by anything on the ground there.
08:25.519 --> 08:31.364
[SPEAKER_00]: He said that other ground observers saw both the B-52 and the light when it was over the same area.
08:31.765 --> 08:39.372
[SPEAKER_00]: He said that Marana would find that the most information comes from Airman O'Connor, and Isle, and an aircraft instructor.
08:39.784 --> 08:46.107
[SPEAKER_00]: Morano asked if it was going with the wind, explaining that they had trouble with hot air balloons.
08:46.667 --> 08:50.169
[SPEAKER_00]: And Warlick said, the geography of the area made this impossible.
08:50.569 --> 08:56.332
[SPEAKER_00]: Warlick also said that he wanted to check Oscar VII, the side of the break-in, with a Gagger counter.
08:56.752 --> 09:05.136
[SPEAKER_00]: He said that they'd had three other break-ins over three years by former personnel with keys, but that there were no tarot tracks, footprints, etc.
09:05.256 --> 09:07.077
[SPEAKER_00]: found at Oscar VII the next day.
09:09.216 --> 09:12.737
[SPEAKER_00]: Sack was giving us trouble because they wanted to know what we were doing.
09:13.217 --> 09:19.339
[SPEAKER_00]: Rolex said that they had asked earlier for technical assistance, and did what they could when they didn't get it.
09:19.739 --> 09:31.962
[SPEAKER_00]: Rolex said he was sending the material requested, and described that the blip on the B-52 radar was a fairly good-sized blip, and emphasized how unusual the failure the radio transmitter was.
09:32.382 --> 09:35.623
[SPEAKER_00]: He said it was his opinion that it couldn't have been a malfunction,
09:36.763 --> 09:39.037
[SPEAKER_01]: transmitted before and afterwards.
09:39.558 --> 09:50.967
[SPEAKER_00]: Giving an indication of what the conclusion in the blue book report would be, Morano explained that there were many astronomical bodies in the area that could have been magnified by the inversion.
09:51.387 --> 09:58.732
[SPEAKER_00]: And Warlic said, there was a raggedy and cloud cover, and that some observers could see stars and some couldn't.
09:59.093 --> 10:07.079
[SPEAKER_00]: The conversation ended with Warlic saying he had done all he could to comply with the regulation, and that he was at the limit of my capabilities.
10:07.499 --> 10:15.548
[SPEAKER_00]: He said this was his first report and that he didn't know how to ask questions, et cetera, and he had spent too much time on it already.
10:15.948 --> 10:20.774
[SPEAKER_00]: The last two memos described failed attempts to contact Warlic after several calls.
10:21.314 --> 10:28.242
[SPEAKER_00]: Other memos reflect sacs interest in the case, and there is a request that they receive a report as quickly as possible.
10:28.622 --> 10:41.089
[SPEAKER_00]: The conclusions already mentioned, but the case to rest for over 30 years, but the investigation by the Sign History Group members revealed some very strange aspects of the case not mentioned in the Blue Book Report.
10:41.589 --> 10:44.291
[SPEAKER_00]: Next week, the Sign History Group investigation.
10:44.951 --> 10:51.074
[SPEAKER_00]: Charles Lear is the author of The Flying Sosser Investigators, available at amazon.com.
10:51.454 --> 10:56.157
[SPEAKER_01]: To find out more about our guest and all others, please visit our website,
00:00.251 --> 00:04.297
[SPEAKER_01]: Hi there, I'm K-Town, and on this edition, I'm a serious radio.
00:26.217 --> 00:31.423
[SPEAKER_00]: A 1968 UFO incident at Minot Air Force Base by Charles Lear.
00:31.964 --> 00:43.117
[SPEAKER_00]: At the suggestion of Mr. Martin Willis, this week we are looking at a report involving a UFO incident on October 24, 1968 at Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota.
00:43.577 --> 01:01.305
[SPEAKER_00]: It involves sightings reported by ground observers stationed at the surrounding minute-man ICBN complex, as well as the crew of a B-52, but gives us case extra significance, is that there are available photos of the B-52 radar scope to back up the cruise account.
01:01.725 --> 01:03.746
[SPEAKER_00]: There is a project blue book file on my case.
01:04.086 --> 01:14.290
[SPEAKER_00]: They contains the conclusion that what was seen was possibly a combination of anomalous propagation of radar returns, a plasma ball, and celestial bodies.
01:14.690 --> 01:20.672
[SPEAKER_00]: But an exceptional investigation began in 2000 by members of the recently formed Scientist Circle Group.
01:21.092 --> 01:24.993
[SPEAKER_00]: Indicates that the incident involves something genuinely mysterious.
01:25.513 --> 01:27.714
[SPEAKER_00]: The case came to the attention of S.H.G.
01:27.754 --> 01:39.998
[SPEAKER_00]: researchers when one of the B-52 crew members kept in Bradford, Ronin, USAF, retired, contacted the Center for UFO studies in 2000 and filled out a QPOS UFO questionnaire.
01:40.398 --> 01:54.798
[SPEAKER_00]: The researchers, Thomas Telly and Jan Aldrich and James Clots, spent the next several years collecting documentation and interviewing the B-52 crew members, non-crew pilot Major James Parton, and Air Force Personnel Station of Minot.
01:55.118 --> 01:57.922
[SPEAKER_00]: They made the results of their efforts available online.
01:58.342 --> 02:07.767
[SPEAKER_00]: As part of the signed oral history project at a site devoted to the case, 24 October 1968, my not Air Force Base, North Dakota.
02:08.187 --> 02:18.152
[SPEAKER_00]: This case came at a time when Project Blueville could just come under scrutiny by the U.S. Congress after scientific consultant Jayle and Heinrich had made the suggestion and Michigan
02:18.472 --> 02:26.975
[SPEAKER_00]: that people had been seeing March gas, the papers reported he said swamp gas, during a UFO flat-around dexter in March of 1966.
02:27.395 --> 02:36.518
[SPEAKER_00]: Gerald Ford, who was the state representative then, and the House Minority Leader, moved the armed surfaces committee to hold a hearing on April 5, 1966.
02:36.978 --> 02:44.340
[SPEAKER_00]: There to answer questions, for Secretary of the Air Force Harold Brown, Project Blue Book Director, Hector, Kintenia, and Heinek.
02:44.760 --> 03:06.413
[SPEAKER_00]: The outcome was that the Air Force was moved to fund a scientific study that the University of Colorado, headed by Dr. Edward U. Condon, to aid the efforts of what became known as the Condon Committee, Air Force Regulation 80-70 was put into place, which required prompt reporting and rapid evaluation of data for successful identification.
03:06.951 --> 03:13.572
[SPEAKER_01]: It is stated, just after the description that strict compliance with this regulation is mandatory.
03:14.093 --> 03:34.737
[SPEAKER_00]: The blue book file available on the sign oral history project site has a series of 12 memos between blue book, strategic air command, and personnel at Minot Air Force Base, that tell a story of the evolution of the blue book investigation from the first contact with the Minot Air Force Base UFO investigator, Lieutenant Arthur J. Warlic.
03:35.237 --> 03:47.337
[SPEAKER_00]: The first memo was dated 24 October 1968, and describes how Lieutenant Morano, who wrote the memo, was told by a foreign technology division duty officer that they had gotten a report of
03:47.805 --> 04:03.389
[SPEAKER_00]: an important UFO sighting at Minot, Marano wrote that he told Kintany about it and then called Warlic, according to him, Warlic hadn't expected a response that night and described the duty officer as being more excited about the incident than he was.
04:03.909 --> 04:11.391
[SPEAKER_00]: Marano wrote that Warlic conceded that it was an unusual sighting and asked if those at Blue Book could help him in any way.
04:11.913 --> 04:20.458
[SPEAKER_00]: Morano then included the details of the sightings as told in by Warlic, starting with a brief summation of the encounter by the B-52 crew.
04:20.918 --> 04:32.624
[SPEAKER_00]: At 0-300 hours local, a B-52 that was about 39 miles northwest of Minot Air Force Base and was making practice penetrations, cited an unidentified blip on the radar.
04:33.124 --> 04:38.767
[SPEAKER_00]: Initially, the target traveled approximately 2.5 miles and 3 seconds, or at about 3,000
04:40.644 --> 04:46.308
[SPEAKER_00]: After passing from the right to the left of the plane, it assumed a position on the left wing of the 52.
04:46.809 --> 04:53.774
[SPEAKER_00]: The blip stayed off the left wing for approximately 20 miles, at which point it broke off, scope photographs were taken.
04:54.234 --> 05:04.302
[SPEAKER_00]: When the target was close to the B-52, neither of the two transmitters in the B-52 would operate properly, but when it broke off, both returned to normal functions.
05:04.833 --> 05:13.377
[SPEAKER_00]: Willakasa described settings of a bright orange red object by at least 15 people on the ground around the time of the B-52 encounter.
05:13.858 --> 05:25.884
[SPEAKER_00]: In addition, he said that a security alarm for both the inner and outer ring of one of the missile sites had been activated and that the outer door was found open and the combination lock in the inner door had been moved.
05:26.423 --> 05:35.507
[SPEAKER_00]: According to Morano, Kintenia told him that the blue book staff needed more precise information before they could do anything, and Warlick said he'd get it for them.
05:36.027 --> 05:41.430
[SPEAKER_00]: Rather than go through all 12 memos individually, we'll sum them up in a narrative as best we can.
05:42.030 --> 05:50.596
[SPEAKER_00]: On October 28, Colonel Wien, from Strategic Air Command HQ, called to find out how Blue Book could receive the report and who was handling it.
05:50.936 --> 05:54.939
[SPEAKER_00]: He was told that they got the report by phone and that Marana was handling it.
05:55.260 --> 06:10.070
[SPEAKER_00]: That same day, Colonel Wien called back the Memorider got the name wrong and identified him as Colonel Wien and wanted to know if Blue Book personnel ever participated in investigations and was told by Marana that they seldom went out into the field.
06:10.578 --> 06:17.001
[SPEAKER_00]: Marano Totem, they felt that Warlick was quite confident and didn't require any assistance from them at that time.
06:17.581 --> 06:26.285
[SPEAKER_00]: On October 29, Colonel Polin from Sack HQ called and asked for in Kintenea's words, a brief rundown of the Minoxidies.
06:26.785 --> 06:32.728
[SPEAKER_00]: Kintenea Totem, that the blip on the radar, could have been caused by the aircraft transmission receiver.
06:33.108 --> 06:40.312
[SPEAKER_00]: that there was an inversion in that people could have been seeing celestial bodies affected by the inversion and sentilation.
06:40.732 --> 06:47.536
[SPEAKER_00]: Pullen asked for a preliminary report and Kintenia told him he needed a more precise timeline from Warlic.
06:47.916 --> 06:52.118
[SPEAKER_00]: Pullen asked if they had sent anyone to Minot and Kintenia told him no.
06:52.578 --> 07:00.842
[SPEAKER_00]: and explained that he only had four people on his staff including himself, a secretary, an assistant, and an administrative sergeant.
07:01.202 --> 07:09.365
[SPEAKER_00]: Pulling again, asked for a preliminary report so that in Cantonese words, he could give it to General Stewart and get this thing simmered down.
07:09.745 --> 07:12.766
[SPEAKER_01]: The memo describing this exchange ends with this.
07:13.127 --> 07:19.089
[SPEAKER_00]: He requested that Colonel Cantonese it a little heavy on what has happened to other aircraft on occasions like this.
07:19.469 --> 07:20.009
[SPEAKER_00]: This would help
07:21.808 --> 07:26.149
[SPEAKER_00]: Morano phoned Minot and spoke with Sergeant Hoy as Warlic was flying.
07:26.709 --> 07:40.234
[SPEAKER_00]: He requested that Warlic send the navigator with someone to interview all the observers in order to obtain precise details covering all the circumstances around the sightings and said that Warlic should send those by tell a time.
07:40.594 --> 07:44.815
[SPEAKER_00]: He specifically stated that the following was to be sent to them by mail.
07:45.295 --> 07:59.301
[SPEAKER_00]: A map of the area, a map of the flight path of the B-52 from 0-258 hours until it landed, AF-117 forms, citing report forms, from all the observers, and copies of the radar scope photos.
07:59.802 --> 08:09.546
[SPEAKER_00]: Whirlett called and talked to Marano, and told him he didn't see how the navigator could help, but said he himself had people fill out the forms, while he monitored them, and showed them
08:14.248 --> 08:25.098
[SPEAKER_00]: In the course of their conversation, we're like told him that there were farm peels where the light was seen by observers at the November 7 site, and that it could not have been produced by anything on the ground there.
08:25.519 --> 08:31.364
[SPEAKER_00]: He said that other ground observers saw both the B-52 and the light when it was over the same area.
08:31.765 --> 08:39.372
[SPEAKER_00]: He said that Marana would find that the most information comes from Airman O'Connor, and Isle, and an aircraft instructor.
08:39.784 --> 08:46.107
[SPEAKER_00]: Morano asked if it was going with the wind, explaining that they had trouble with hot air balloons.
08:46.667 --> 08:50.169
[SPEAKER_00]: And Warlick said, the geography of the area made this impossible.
08:50.569 --> 08:56.332
[SPEAKER_00]: Warlick also said that he wanted to check Oscar VII, the side of the break-in, with a Gagger counter.
08:56.752 --> 09:05.136
[SPEAKER_00]: He said that they'd had three other break-ins over three years by former personnel with keys, but that there were no tarot tracks, footprints, etc.
09:05.256 --> 09:07.077
[SPEAKER_00]: found at Oscar VII the next day.
09:09.216 --> 09:12.737
[SPEAKER_00]: Sack was giving us trouble because they wanted to know what we were doing.
09:13.217 --> 09:19.339
[SPEAKER_00]: Rolex said that they had asked earlier for technical assistance, and did what they could when they didn't get it.
09:19.739 --> 09:31.962
[SPEAKER_00]: Rolex said he was sending the material requested, and described that the blip on the B-52 radar was a fairly good-sized blip, and emphasized how unusual the failure the radio transmitter was.
09:32.382 --> 09:35.623
[SPEAKER_00]: He said it was his opinion that it couldn't have been a malfunction,
09:36.763 --> 09:39.037
[SPEAKER_01]: transmitted before and afterwards.
09:39.558 --> 09:50.967
[SPEAKER_00]: Giving an indication of what the conclusion in the blue book report would be, Morano explained that there were many astronomical bodies in the area that could have been magnified by the inversion.
09:51.387 --> 09:58.732
[SPEAKER_00]: And Warlic said, there was a raggedy and cloud cover, and that some observers could see stars and some couldn't.
09:59.093 --> 10:07.079
[SPEAKER_00]: The conversation ended with Warlic saying he had done all he could to comply with the regulation, and that he was at the limit of my capabilities.
10:07.499 --> 10:15.548
[SPEAKER_00]: He said this was his first report and that he didn't know how to ask questions, et cetera, and he had spent too much time on it already.
10:15.948 --> 10:20.774
[SPEAKER_00]: The last two memos described failed attempts to contact Warlic after several calls.
10:21.314 --> 10:28.242
[SPEAKER_00]: Other memos reflect sacs interest in the case, and there is a request that they receive a report as quickly as possible.
10:28.622 --> 10:41.089
[SPEAKER_00]: The conclusions already mentioned, but the case to rest for over 30 years, but the investigation by the Sign History Group members revealed some very strange aspects of the case not mentioned in the Blue Book Report.
10:41.589 --> 10:44.291
[SPEAKER_00]: Next week, the Sign History Group investigation.
10:44.951 --> 10:51.074
[SPEAKER_00]: Charles Lear is the author of The Flying Sosser Investigators, available at amazon.com.
10:51.454 --> 10:56.157
[SPEAKER_01]: To find out more about our guest and all others, please visit our website,
